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Is wolf-whistling a sex crime?

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annsixty Tue 28-Apr-15 08:46:40

The DT is reporting that police are investigating after a young woman complained after "lecherous" builders whistled at her. At risk of being shot down, when I was young and in my prime I would have complained if they didn't whistle at me.

vampirequeen Fri 01-May-15 17:46:08

grin

pompa Fri 01-May-15 17:44:33

Continuing along the lines of my last couple of posts.
Went shopping with Mrs. P today, parked myself on a table outside Costa and watched the world go by (as you do) while she was dithering over what to buy. I espied many ladies passing by with amazingly attractive minds, which just goes to show, I am losing it. I have noticed though that a nice pair of jeans ups their IQ level. Interestingly when Mrs. P joined me several hours later, all she noticed was how many had their hair coloured ??? I hadn't noticed that for some reason. smile

vampirequeen Fri 01-May-15 17:36:15

Having been on the receiving end of both domestic violence and wolf whistles I don't feel they stem from the same root. My ex needed to dominate and control. My suffering was part of his control technique which was designed to make me feel as worthless as possible.

The few times I've been wolf whistled has been a sign of appreciation and made me feel good about myself.

rosequartz Fri 01-May-15 17:10:03

(not that that counts for anything)

rosequartz Fri 01-May-15 17:09:44

Quite a well-balanced thread imo.

Elegran Fri 01-May-15 17:09:04

Others were on Poppy's side about the escalation from wolf-whistles to more, as well.

rosequartz Fri 01-May-15 17:05:18

Oh! Got it. Thanks Ana

I was on poor Poppy's side anyway, not about the wolf whistling but about the 'in her face' intrusion of her privacy and prevention of her going about her lawful business.
Perhaps she thought the young man in question was only 18 or 19, he looks quite young and is obviously very immature. I bet his mum is really proud of him (not).

Go Poppy, Go !

loopylou Fri 01-May-15 17:02:24

confused with knobs on
IMO wolf whistling is not a sex crime to answer the question

Ana Fri 01-May-15 17:00:07

rose, it's probably because you haven't contacted them complaining that poor Poppy is being 'attacked' on this thread...hmm

TriciaF Fri 01-May-15 16:56:47

VQ - of course they're not the same thing,but they stem from the same root ie the male need to dominate the female.
It's only the method that differs, depending on the relationship between the 2 people.

rosequartz Fri 01-May-15 16:54:19

They haven't emailed me, where did I go wrong? confused

Elegran Fri 01-May-15 16:51:57

amarmai I have looked at all the pages on this thread, and there is no post from GNHQ. You repeated your thanks to them, so you clearly want to tell us that you have seen such an email, but WE have not. If it was sent you as a private email, then it was meant for you, not for public viewing. If they had wanted it to be public, they would have posted on the thread.

As it is, we only have your second-hand hint. You do realise that without seeing the email itself, we have no idea whether it is even true that you received it! Anyone could post to say "Thank you GN for backing my side of this" without any email from them at all! I am sure you would not stoop to such a deception, but you must see that by thanking them twice in public, you are tacitly claiming that they have said that you are right and others are wrong?

janeainsworth Fri 01-May-15 16:12:51

Bags I didn't mean to offend you with my 'tone' confused, sorry if I did.

vampirequeen Fri 01-May-15 16:11:39

What email?

vampirequeen Fri 01-May-15 16:11:07

'The whistling went on for a month. I eventually contacted the building company and the police on the same day when it got so bad.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057347/Police-probe-construction-firm-23-year-old-woman-accused-builders-sexual-harassment-WOLF-WHISTLING.html#ixzz3YtqS4179
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This is my source. She says quite clearly that she contacted the company and the police on the same day. In another part of the report she says that she was stopped by a young man aged 18 or 19. This doesn't sound like the man who was interviewed later and has been discussed on this thread.

As a survivor of domestic abuse I can state categorically that a wolf whistle and domestic abuse are definitely not the same thing.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:57:13

People with more knowledge of domestic abuse than I have have wondered the same thing and tried to work out why abused people apparently put up with abuse for so long. It is not wondering that is the problem. Blame, if there is any, is the problem. I did not include blame in my wondering.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:55:02

I reiterate, jane, that what I wondered is not a criticism, nor did I wonder it in the tone your post implies.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:53:27

I haven't said anything about what Poppy should or shouldn't have done, amarmai. I think you have misinterpreted what I have actually said.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:52:22

Agreed, jane. The argument, or even the wondering, is comparable. However, I did still wonder it, and I think I wondered it because I believe that the wolf whistling was not a big issue with her, even if she didn't like it. Having someone undesirable step in her way was and is a big issue.

Ana Fri 01-May-15 15:51:12

What email? confused

amarmai Fri 01-May-15 15:48:13

so far neither ana, vq, thatbags or any of the others who have made this criticism of Poppy ,have posted the source of their information re the timeline of what and when Polly did or didn't do . And it is an attack on Polly to say what she should or shouldn't have done. She was in the situation which escalated significantly and would have caused her to ask herself 'what next ?' She dealt with it as she saw fit and she has to live with the consequences. She did complain to the owner of the building and to the building contractor and to the police- read the BBC news article i posted pages ago. She did not do that all on one day as has been posted .Again thank you GN for sending us the email supporting Polly.

janeainsworth Fri 01-May-15 15:31:07

Of course wolf-whistling and domestic abuse are not comparable in terms of what women suffer, but the argument 'well if it was so awful, why didn't you speak up earlier' as a criticism of the woman is comparable.

amarmai Fri 01-May-15 15:27:34

thank you GN admin for making clear that Poppy should not be attacked and that the behaviour of the aggressive man on the building site was wrong and needed to be addressed.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:25:35

Exactly, elegran. It was the blocking of her path that was wrong, not the whistling. Wolf whistling does not stop one going about one's lawful business.

thatbags Fri 01-May-15 15:24:25

I don't think wolf whistling and persistent domestic abuse are comparable, just as you don't think wolf whistling and putting on make-up, choosing clothes that flatter one, etc, are comparable.