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Making a virtue out of frugality.

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Katek Tue 10-Feb-15 10:49:52

I have a friend....not close, so probably more of an acquaintance, who has the knack of making me feel somehow inferior. My own self esteem issues I know, but it doesn't make for comfortable meetings. She eschews all modern appliances which would make life easier, won't use central heating unless it's practically sub zero, eats so frugally that a fruit yoghurt is a treat, wears jumpers so old that they're all bobbly ran her last ancient car until it fell to bits and apart from a haircut spends nothing on herself. She is widowed, owns her own house and is reasonably comfortable financially, she's certainly not as strapped for cash as her lifestyle would indicate. It's her choice how she lives her life although her children are concerned about the lack of heat and certain of her eating habits, but it's started to affect the fabric if her house with damp and condensation. She looks at you pityingly if you suggest a tumble drier to help with the condensation issues and won't believe you when you point out that an A rated machine only costs around 30p per hour. She knows differently. I always end up feeling over dressed and uncomfortable because I take pride in my nails and have them done regularly, sort of cheap because I dye my hair, I'm not dressed extravagantly, jeggings and tunic top,(supermarket best) but I almost feel like a gypsy bride as she looks at me. And as for my Pandora bracelet....I'm practically hiding it up my sleeve, but it was a gift and so were all the charms so it's a meaningful thing for me. Not just a piece of cheap jewellery which is how she makes me feel about it. It's hard to describe how she does it...an attitude, an eyebrow raise, slightly supercilious look and the odd remark such as 'oh I wouldn't know about that' with the implication being that it's beneath her. Do others know people like this and how do you deal with them?

rosequartz Tue 10-Feb-15 16:07:48

Jangle away!

DM used to say 'A little of what you fancy does you good'

Perhaps she really is strapped for cash though, and is too proud to admit it. Being like that is her defence mechanism.

Eloethan Tue 10-Feb-15 17:21:43

kateK I would try to take no notice. If this lady really has got enough money to heat her home properly but instead chooses to let it fall into disrepair, I think it is she that has the problem.

soontobe Tue 10-Feb-15 17:36:57

Has she always been like this?

And about what age is she? Especially when there was rationing in the war?

soontobe Tue 10-Feb-15 17:44:20

She could be fearful of spending money. She could have been brought up the way she is now.
She could have chosen to be frugal somewhere along the line, and now cant see that by not spending, that she is losing money [may be it wont affect her directly] through not keeping her house looked after properly.

Above all though, she seems to think she knows it all, when really, some of what she says is decades out of date.

What to do about her? Not much you can do. She is far too set in her ways and thinks she knows best.
I think that all you can do is think of it as her having the problem, and definitely not yourself.

annodomini Tue 10-Feb-15 18:42:05

She sounds just like my late FiL who, even when he was dying, wouldn't have the heating on in his house, preferring to wrap himself in a rug. But it was his choice.

FlicketyB Tue 10-Feb-15 19:27:18

Some people like feeling morally superior to others and feel they can occupy the moral high ground by being more abstemious and parsimonious than their neighbours. I think my response to that would be that there are no pockets in a shroud.

harrigran Tue 10-Feb-15 19:37:49

My aunt and cousin would not waste a morsel of anything, if they boiled a kettle they put left over water in a flask for later.

granjura Tue 10-Feb-15 20:06:56

Frugality is fine, but when it does become an obsession, can actually be very dangerous, sadly.

Anne58 Tue 10-Feb-15 20:17:19

I always thought the phrase was "cocking a snook"

NfkDumpling Tue 10-Feb-15 20:30:05

As Granjura says, excessive frugality can be dangerous. A sort of OCD.

loopylou Tue 10-Feb-15 21:58:04

I do wonder why some who live frugally feel they have to almost boast about it?
DH's potty spinster godmother was the same, legendary for making a pound of mince stretch to 4 meals for her and her batchelor brother who she adeptly prevented from marrying (I think that was all they ever ate with boiled potatoes and cabbage hmm!)
When he died she was almost obsessive about not spending money, wore sheets of newspaper wrapped around her body and tied with string to keep warm, in a house full of antiques and cobwebs, very Miss Haversham-like.
When she died left over £1.2m to a far distant relative who no one had ever met, lucky b....r!

Katek Wed 11-Feb-15 08:43:41

Have recovered my equilibrium today...., in no small part due to all you kind GNetters! Today the winter sun is shining directly into my sun room, my very good friend is visiting and we are going out for lunch. Happy day and I will try to learn to rise above Mrs Morally Superior ..... If she wants to sit wrapped in a throw then that's fine, me-I'll have the central heating!

annodomini Wed 11-Feb-15 09:29:03

phoenix, I agree with you. I think that 'cocking a snook' was something like thumbing one's nose, though I am sure someone will put me right on that.

rosequartz Wed 11-Feb-15 09:44:58

I thought 'cocking a snook' meant that, anno, at least I hope so because I just used it on another thread (re pupils 'cocking a snook' at teachers).

Have a lovely day Katek and could you send some sunshine our way please, it is grey and drizzly here and I wanted to take DGD to the park.

Mrs Morally Superior - love it!
I will remember that when I talk to Mr and Mrs Intellectually Superior!

annsixty Wed 11-Feb-15 11:00:19

I know a Mrs Financially Superior so I will remember it too!

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 11-Feb-15 16:24:06

Yes, of course it's "snook"! I don't know where that 'snoop' came from. grin

#ageingbrain

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 11-Feb-15 16:25:13

Mind you, you knew bloody well what I meant. Rude to mention it.

[thumbs nose and sticks out tongue]

rockgran Wed 11-Feb-15 16:45:39

We need an emoticon for that, Jingle!

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 11-Feb-15 16:48:37

We do! CARI!!!!!!!!

grin

carol123 Wed 11-Feb-15 17:17:50

This thread reminds me of my granny who I stayed with quite a bit as a child. She had old clothes and neighbours used to give her coats and hats etc to keep warm. There was no hot water kettle went on the coal fire to save using the gas cooker (coal fire was the only heating) and dim bulbs for lighting throughout the house. She would collect fallen branches after a storm to burn with the coal and make it last longer!

She actually owned her own house and a rank of cottages (7) and I went with her to collect the rents! The floors had rag rugs and threadbare lino on them, no fridge, vacuum or anything like that. She kept chickens in the garden for meat and eggs and grew veg which she sold from her house.

She was a very generous person in her own way - sent a ton of coal to my mum anonymously and a posh coat from a select shop in the best part of town when she found us with no fire in the winter. Also we visited a young widow with 2 children who was her friend and I caught her putting money in a kitchen drawer there for the lady to find. But all gifts were anonymous and she couldnt stand 'show' or debt (HP she called it)

She was brought up as one of 13 children in the countryside, worked on the land in rural Hungary and never had anything as a child so that is probably why she was like this when she was widowed at 45.

I am quite frugal and shop around for clothes etc but could never live like this. If your friend is in a damp cold house and is very elderly perhaps she may have dementia and not realise how cold it is.

soontobe Wed 11-Feb-15 17:40:41

I too think that the woman in the op may be ill, especially as her children are worried about her.

Soutra Wed 11-Feb-15 18:21:55

I don't!grin
"There's nowt so queer as folk!"

Anne58 Wed 11-Feb-15 18:25:29

One of the best/worst examples that I know of was the MIL of a friend of mine. They were a farming family, and the MIL would save the "string" that you pulled off when opening sacks of animal feed and use it to knit dishcloths! shock

Although now I think of it, my (titled) stepgrandmother took great pride in an item that she had bought at a bring and buy event. It was a gadget that you put scraps of soap in to press them into "new" bars......... but I suppose it gave her that bit more money to spend on sherry! grin

annodomini Wed 11-Feb-15 18:39:28

People can be different, even eccentric, without being ill, soon.

soontobe Wed 11-Feb-15 18:52:30

I dont know if you realised that carol123 is saying it too?

I know annodomini. Of course I do.