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Eloethan Mon 05-Jan-15 01:07:42

A BBC documentary relating to Prince Charles, which was due to be shown this evening, was cancelled. Then an entire thread on GN relating to Prince Andrew was deleted "for legal reasons". It tells its own story really doesn't it.

papaoscar Mon 05-Jan-15 02:55:57

All very disturbing.

loopylou Mon 05-Jan-15 06:38:55

Can hardly think the thread would have been used in legal proceedings!
Perhaps should close the one about the North Korean leader too......

pompa Mon 05-Jan-15 07:04:40

All smacks of "Big Brother" brandishing the big stick of censorship. one wonders why ?

NfkDumpling Mon 05-Jan-15 07:21:47

It simply doesn't Do to Rude about Royalty.

Kiora Mon 05-Jan-15 07:37:38

One rule for us and no rules for them. It's not the fact that he may be guilty that rankles it's the fact that we are not allowed to talk about it.

Marelli Mon 05-Jan-15 07:40:56

Where's Freedom of Speech, now? hmm

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 07:42:59

I have been pondering this.
As I said on the now deleted thread, it can come down to who can affird the best lawyers.
This site is small, and any legal team they could afford, is in no way going to match that of the Royal Family, or the Government.

loopylou Mon 05-Jan-15 07:45:55

Guess we'll need to be ultra cautious in future if discussions involve a named person, just in case confused?

NfkDumpling Mon 05-Jan-15 07:48:49

We'll have to think up code names.

loopylou Mon 05-Jan-15 07:50:20

But not say to whom they refer on the website?

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 07:50:22

Free speech is a myth though. It never existed. I am not sure why people ever thought it did.

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 07:59:06

The deleted thread on here did say something about, he can be discussed, but not accused of being guilty?

I suppose that would be slanderous for the site?

NfkDumpling Mon 05-Jan-15 08:07:47

It would be good to know exactly what made them decide to take it down - so we can avoid treading on legal toes.

Anya Mon 05-Jan-15 08:09:11

Hypothetically, if someone is not actually accused of something in another country, there is nothing that can be done to clear their name.

BUT if something was written or said in their own country that could just possibly be judged as slander or libel, then that can be used in a legal action as a means of clearing that person's name.

Therefore all the media are being warned not to put themselves in that position. I have that from a Very Reliable Source.

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 08:22:57

So he could be cleared because he was being talked about in a possible slanderous way?
Does that work with "ordinary" people too?

petallus Mon 05-Jan-15 08:24:58

There is a pic in today's Guardian of a very well known person, but younger looking, standing next to a young woman with his arm around her waist.

Grannyknot Mon 05-Jan-15 08:30:23

Oh, please. If it was anyone else, the thread would have been permitted to run and run. It's what we do! It's a chat forum.

It's nonsense, I'll just go on Twitter to read what people think (if I could be bothered). Mind you, apparently "hashtag the person in question" was trending on Twitter over the weekend, but that somehow also disappeared.

Lona Mon 05-Jan-15 08:45:16

Maybe we should refer to him as "Voldemort" or "He who shall not be named" hmm

Riverwalk Mon 05-Jan-15 08:48:42

All the newspapers are running the story in great detail, but none that I can see has opened any article to public comments.

They and GNHQ have to play safe I suppose.

petallus Mon 05-Jan-15 08:50:05

I should have said standing next to the young woman in question with his arm around her waist.

Iam64 Mon 05-Jan-15 09:06:14

Tedious, predictable and whilst I understand base control has to keep an eye on threads I feel deleting it may just possibly infringe our right to free speech. To the point I'd read the thread, no one was suggesting Prince A had committed any legal crime so why the deletion?

petallus - if it's the same photograph, his arm was resting nicely on her bare midriff. Not illegal, of course.

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 09:16:48

I dont think that the right to free speech is enshrined in law anywhere.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 09:21:33

Justine afraid, again, of losing her millions. Anyone remember the Gina Ford thing on Mumsnet?

#thereismoneyatstake hmm

whenim64 Mon 05-Jan-15 09:24:35

Discussing the behaviour of celebs, royals and the powers-that-be is not against the law. It isn't libellous to refer to what has been alleged. Private Eye has this off pat, these days. Twitter and the media are busily gushing out opinions and allegations, with lots of links to other notorious stories.

I trust that Gransnet isn't being threatened by royals' lawyers - that would make an even hotter story than the current ones about programmes being prevented from airing and a prince being friendly with a registered sex offender who was convicted for procuring under-age girls!