OK jingl you've made your point but reading posts from those whose fathers died when we were children or who were for whatever absent in our early years does not negate their contribtion to who we are today. So can we have less sniping and if you don't feel able or don't want to contribute - fine. My father visited my mother daily in hospital 10 miles away from his home for months on end despite being in his 80's unable to drive and suffering from angina. She wasn't always happy to see him as she had grown very short tempered but what he taught me in those years was dedication some might even call it even stubbornness. And a strong sense of duty. Oh and when I was a child he taught me to SPELL and to love and use language with respect! (My typos of today would have him spinning in his grave!)
The Devil In The Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke - BBC IPlayer
What's one health habit you've started that's actually made a difference?
Suggestions for a strong but pet friendly weed killer please.

and hugs!
there must have been a male relative you could have made a card for. 

