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We're not 'The Elderly'

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loop50 Mon 17-Mar-14 10:44:06

We're more than that - we deserve some respect.

Whether we're 'younger, older people' or 'older, older people' (as coined at this link and in more depth. http://www.generationboomer.co.uk/boomer-news/)

I've made my point there.
HMG not always helping!

goldengirl Mon 17-Mar-14 16:54:35

I'm not elderly - until I look in the mirror! Today I've had my 6 monthly medical review which went well; went to Pilates which was good and had my 6 weekly session at the physio who said I had very good abs which made me feel a million dollars! Yippee grin

apricot Mon 17-Mar-14 17:54:00

I don't like euphemisms or whatever word is PC at the moment. Most of them come from America, where nobody ever grows old (they're senior or elderly) and nobody dies (they pass or pass on or over)
I'm quite old and to my grandchildren I'm ancient. I shall never be elderly.

Mishap Mon 17-Mar-14 18:00:37

Language is a funny thing and goes in phases. Once the term spastic was entirely acceptable, then people started using it in a derogatory way, so a new word had to be found. As a social worker I spent the first half of my career helping clients, but that fell out of favour and they became users (always sounded like junkies to me!).

It all depends whether the word elderly is being used in a derogatory way or a respectful way - in many cultures elders are held in high esteem.

I personally have no problem with it. It would be nice to be able to choose when it applies to oneself; but maybe we just have to take things in the spirit they are meant. If someone is using the word to put someone down, then by all means object; if not, then I am happy with it.

loop50 Mon 17-Mar-14 18:01:36

hi rosequartz. Although the Boomer thing refers to baby boomers (roughly 50-70 years old I think it's a movement or a way of thinking.

You lived through and probably helped raise that generation.

There are also some other items which encourage the thought that younger people and older people can have regard for each other.

Anyway - stay well.

FlicketyB Mon 17-Mar-14 18:33:05

The use of the euphemism 'passed away' rather than saying 'died' or 'dead' is becoming endemic in the UK. When I was a child my grandmother considered the phrase 'passed away' very Hyacinth Bucket.
Now I have even heard it used by Newsreaders on the Radio 4.

Tomorrow we are going to the funeral of life-long very dear friend who died 10 days ago. He died. It is how his wife described the event when she rang us a few hours after the event and it is how his children describe the event. He did not pass on, leave us, go before or any other of the silly euphemisms.

Culag Mon 17-Mar-14 18:49:38

I agree with you Flickety. Death is something we all have to face up to and although it's talked about more these days the euphemisms are also creeping in.

Nonu Mon 17-Mar-14 19:08:42

IMO < if people want to use "passed away" to denote death that is their right .
What ever floats your boat, TBH !

Libmoggy Mon 17-Mar-14 19:19:21

I've now got a free TV licence, so I'm probably old. My mother died at 91 and lived alone until the end. An aunt lived in her own home until she died at 97

Grannylin Mon 17-Mar-14 19:21:12

I loved reading this story today ...and elderly not mentioned once!
www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/eighty-Devon-couple-Britain-s-oldest-newlyweds/story-20819042-detail/story.html

Nonu Mon 17-Mar-14 19:36:10

What a sweet story !
smile

rosequartz Mon 17-Mar-14 19:53:14

Thanks loop50, it's just a bug picked up from DGD2 I think!

The article mentioned boomers were born 1946 onwards, so I would assume I was elderly by their criterion.

However, I'm definitely a 'baby' boomer' in my opinion.

judidoo Mon 17-Mar-14 21:02:46

Dear Ninathenana and Jinglbells.frocks, Well I looked at this subject thinking it might be amusing, but according to you both I am elderly, frail, and vulnerable! Alas! - Actually you're probably right! (Or were?) I am not quite so f. and v. now as I was end of last year but am definitely not any_younger_(I've tried to underline younger). Anyway, that's how it is and I don't mind really.
Being elderly (or whatever) means tall people offer to get things down from the top shelf in the supermarket, and you can have someone push your trolley to the car, or carry your coffee to the table in the cafe. You can smile at nice young men who open doors (or assist in other ways) and tell them how lovely they are for being so kind. Lots of things.
Well I'm finishing now. Time to wind down before bed. Good night!

Ana Mon 17-Mar-14 21:07:11

I'm still occasionally asked to reach things down from the top shelves in supermarkets even though I am apparently 'elderly'! (I'm not a giant, just 5'7").

GrannyGear Mon 17-Mar-14 21:57:21

I agree with Ogden Nash
“Senescence begins
And middle-age ends
The day your descendants
Outnumber your friends”

But as I have only 5 descendants (3 children and 2 grandsons) I must be a long way off senescene, unless of course I have very few friends!
sad

Ashmore32 Mon 17-Mar-14 23:40:21

I was always taught to call my 'elders' ie old enough to be my parent Mr and Mrs. I now have fewer and fewer people to do this to, but find myself still calling people who used to be old enough mr and Mrs. It is becoming the norm for young nurses to just use a first name without asking, assuming that most do not mind! A rather delightful Nonogenarian announced to me on my first conversation with her today , that Mrs ....... Was her mother in law! I was to call her by her first name. I do try but it feels so wrong. So to try and get me to do it we have come to the compromise that if I forget she will call me Sister, rather than by my first name which I think is so much better.
My other fault is the term Mrs over Miss, probably more irksome for some. Perhaps the term Mrs should come as the title change for Master to Mister. After all we are no longer a Husbands property. It would be less irritating for them to have to correct my mistakes....
When I asked a young boy how old he was today, as he had his birthday boy badge on he proudly said 7! He then asked me how old I was, I told him as old as my tongue and a little older than my teeth. It was something my gramma told me. I smiled as I walked away. I just hope one day I can say it to a grand child of my own....as for being elderly..Old as you feel and in my head I am still far too you do for some of my party tricks!

Ashmore32 Mon 17-Mar-14 23:41:08

Far too old.....silly ipad spelling pixies..... Sorry!

thatbags Tue 18-Mar-14 07:17:24

What a lot of fuss about nothing! To call a group "elderly" is not necessarily to dismiss or stereotype it any more than calling a group "young people" is. Both terms are vague in the extreme, e.g. young person can refer to someone who is a baby or to someone who is in their twenties or even thirties. Elderly refers to people who either are very old or who are, as Chambers puts it, "approaching old age" – another vast range of actual physical ages.

The article asks that we be called "older" but older is comparative so needs to be qualified with an explanation – older than what? Why, older than young people is all.

Nothing wrong with the terms kids, young adults, middle aged bods and the elderly as far as I'm concerned. It's all relative and, in particular, it's extremely vague and non-informative and therefore not worth taking any notice of.

<shrugs and moves on, not caring two hoots what age related category labelling people put her in>

thatbags Tue 18-Mar-14 07:18:35

All elderly means to me is that whoever is called it is no longer young. Simple and true.

thatbags Tue 18-Mar-14 07:19:56

As well as being subjective. DH was thought to be an "old man" by some Cubs when he was in his early fifties. Big deal. Not.

Ariadne Tue 18-Mar-14 07:44:35

bags I agree! The actual word itself is not worth bothering about; the stereotyping of the old or elderly or whatever is annoying, but so what?

rosequartz hot toddy winging its way through the ether to you. smile

DebnCreme Tue 18-Mar-14 07:59:54

I would prefer to be called Mrs ..... by my grandchildrens' contemporaries rather than by my first name as happens now. Also, when called into the doctor's surgery why am I called by my first name? Please could I have Mrs tagged on?

feetlebaum Tue 18-Mar-14 08:44:53

I've been elderly for longer than I have been old...

thatbags Tue 18-Mar-14 09:11:20

I have been called young for longer than I have been young.

Nonnie Tue 18-Mar-14 09:46:04

apricot I have absolutely no intention of 'passing' I dislike it intently. I plan to die! For me it is just the same as when I taught my children the proper names of parts of their bodies.

Actually I don't even like IHT, I still think of it as Death Duties which is what it actually is!

I've been asking tall people to reach things down for me all my life judi!

Aka Tue 18-Mar-14 09:46:15

It's when the media that use the term eg

' Elderly lady fights off intruder with rolling pin. Ann Other, 61, was so enraged when a .....'

Then I think, elderly? She's younger than I am confused