Prince George

I never learnt to do that and my babies seemed to fight their way out of any wrapping I tried to do, with great ease.

DD now uses a Manduca baby sling worn on the front or the back. The little fellow seems very happy in this and DD finds it comfortable. He settles well in this and nods off happily. It's the hold the baby close to the body idea.

Nonu That argument is like saying 2,000 lemmings can't be wrong. As I said, that was a safety warning on all baby car seats 11 years ago but it might well be different now.

I think it must be different now. I didn't have a car so didn't use baby seats. My daughter does and she wouldn't break safety rules. The handle on her baby seat folds up not down so it's not a crush barrier. I doubt if that was ever the intention.

People will criticise whatever Will and Kate do. I hope they shrug it off along with all the other bullshit people spout about them. In fact, I hope they don't hear of most of it.

We had one of those egg-shaped Britax seats which, once bolted on to the car, was almost impossible to remove, so no question of using it to carry the baby. And we had a Morris Traveller 1300, half-timbered job.

So Wills and Kate have a dog around their baby - well that's fine then - it must be a good idea!!

We had a "sit-up-and-beg" Ford when my first DD was a baby. Trafficators and windscreen wipers that worked off the engine, so you could not use them when going up hill! - and no heating of course! I can remember sticking her on the back seat in a carry cot and piling covers on her to stop her freezing!

We had one of those too anno - ours was red and black and secured to the back of our Morris Marina! Meant we couldn't fit an adult in that side of the back seat even when baby was not on board.

Was that a hint of sarcasm Mishap re the dogs and the Royals, I just think it is a nice family picture and the dog makes it more "normal". Or are we not allowed to have different views?

I think it shows that the novelty of having a dog hasn't worn off now they've got a baby, unlike my niece who palmed her collie off on my brother once the first baby arrived.

It was intended to be lighthearted!!

Here's the latest prince goss from N Wales. He had his first evening out recently. In the restaurant that is across the road!!! Tish, i was not peering out of the window in a sufficiently dedicated manner. Interesting though that they are both willing and able to go out together here, to a perfectly ordinary restaurant. Mixed clientelle - mostly families. The odd group celebrating someone's 21st etc
How times have changed, and I hope they manage to find similar normality in their next abode.

In Kensington Palace, JessM?

The walls of Princess Margaret's old flat appartment will have a few tales to tell I'm sure.

As was mine * Mishap*, although lately I have noticed it is sometimes hard to distinguish who is joking and who isn't as I am sure you will agree. We must keep, fun, light heartedness and a hint of sarcasm in our lives because sometimes the reality of life is hard and many of us suffer. So my apologies to you Mishap if I misread the meaning of your post.

No probs!

Oh is that where they are going. I'm sure he will miss the fun of flying helicopters around snowdonia. And what I was wondering really is if they would be able to go out for a peaceful evening as a family, alongside other ordinary families, without people fussing or intruding.

The thing of it is though they are not an "ordinary " family .
"Specially now the child has come along !

anno; we had a Morris 1000 Traveller. I've still got the number plate. We used to travel round Europe in it, and when we went into garages people would point to it saying 'baum'??? They started re making them a few years back for a while but I've never seen one so I think it just stopped. Brakes didn't brake very well. I used to sit in other peoples cars quaking with fright because they seemed to leave braking so late.

No nonu they are not ordinary but they would obviously like a bit of normality in their family life. (Compared to the complete lack of normality that Prince Charles experienced) Kate, after all, grew up able to go shopping or out for a pizza without anyone staring and taking her photo. And Will has been doing a fairly normal job. On Anglesey she has been able to go to the supermarket, go out for fish and chips etc and be left in peace. I can't see London being the same for them somehow.

FWIW, you have answered for yourself really Jess !!