How judgmental are you?

What I really like about Gransnet is that we can have considered debates that give an all-round view of interesting and sometimes contentious issues. It's a shame that having an open discussion brings some posts that appear to be motivated by a desire to create conflict. Nowadays, when the first agitating post appears on a thread, I always read back to the beginning to see if that poster has contributed anything to the discussion beforehand. Sadly, not many have done so. I wonder whether they are aware that this pattern of seeking out opportunities to create conflict is becoming more obvious?

Lively debate is stimulating and I wouldn't want to see it quashed. There are ways to give other perspectives, or to challenge each other, without resorting to claims that some posters think they are a cut above or below others. That's why we have guidance about forum etiquette.

I've already posted about what I consider the disruptive effect of this thread though I am sure that this wasn't Kitty's original intention. She simply raised a discussion point which seemed to call for an objective examination of one's own attitudes. I hope I'm right about that, Kitty.

Sorry - Charlotta's post wasn't there when I wrote my last one, which was supposed to follow on from my previous one.....

Which amounts to the same thing on here!

This was an interesting thread without too much harmony which is sometimes deadening for discussion, but has now descended into who is better than anyone else on GN.
I'm sure many of us couldn't care less, we write because we like to state our point of view and read about others.

But certainly which newspapers others read.

Thank you, Pogs,

pogs

POGS

kitty, that's correct. You didn't mention the DM

pogs,

Kitty,Littlenellie and baNANA .

I am sure we can ALL agree nobody on G.N. is better than anyone else.

Maybe it's time when we debate for us ALL to remember to think before we type. I will try to do as I suggest.

I wish there was a symbol for fingers crossed! [SMILE]

YES Anagram. I couldn't care less who knows I read the DM. By the time I get to our village shop it's often the best option as they don't stock many newspapers. I look at a different newspapers online most days but I do like to have something I can pick up and put down during the day.
One thing about the DM though is why do they have an obsession with that awful journalist Liz Jones? Anything that requires an investigation or opinion is handed to her on a plate. Maybe I should give up the DM afterall

'We have had various threads where people have expressed their views quite forcefully about which newspaper others read , people who are supposed benefit-scroungers or have been to public school etc, etc, but how good are you at seeing people and situations from a non-prejudiced point of view?'

I think it certainly was mentioned, kittylester!

It's funny how something that was not mentioned in my opening post has everyone so exercised but not the specifics mentioned ie supposed benefit cheats or people who went to public school.

At teacher-training college in the sixties we were gathered together for a talk on what it meant to be a teacher! We were told that whatever background we had come from (gr.) we would be entering the Middle Class!
What nonsense!
I am working class and proud to be so.
At the moment I seldom read a newspaper ( not enough time!) but do catch up on line. Over the years the OG and I have bought the Telegraph (for the crossword, he won several packs of cards!) the Guardian and the Observer.These days we sometimes buy the 'I' which at 20p is a bargain and seems fairly unbiased. My best friend reads theMail and the Times. She is my friend regardless of what she reads!
Having written all that, I'm not sure what it adds to the discussion.... sorry!

I must admit I'm at a loss to understand what's detestable about it - it's only one of many daily newspapers and some of its articles are far less biased than those in other papers I could mention. I can't imagine someone's choice of newspaper determining whether I would want to be friends with them or not!

In a hospital waiting room earlier today I came across a copy of the Daily Mail.

It gave a very balance and non rabble rousing account of the latest news on the Tia murder case.

Generally, it was a bit more gossipy than, say, the Guardian, which I liked.

Quite profound !

Well, when it comes to newspapers, it depends why you read it. My husband insists on buying the Daily Mail because he believes that you should always read at least one newspaper whose politics you profoundly disagree with, particularly as the DM represents the opinons of a large proportion of the population. We also buy the Independent because it is our kind of paper and is reflective of our views.

Quite separately I think responders to this thread are confusing being predjudiced with being judgemental. They are not the same thing. If I see an incident of bad driving on the roads. I will quickly reach a judgemental decision about the driver involved. If I automatically conclude that because they drive dangerously/stupidly that s/he is also an untrustworthy parther, bad parent, and dishonest employee etc thats the element that introduces the prejudice.

I have never met a perfect family, I have met one or two who think they are, and good luck to them, but who knows what goes on behind closed doors. Most of us do the best we can.nellie you are loved on here.

glamma I dont think there is such a thing as a perfect family!

I gave up buying newspapers when one day I counted up the cost on a yearly basis,if I bought The Daily Mail for instance it would cost approx £268.00 per year so I read a mixture of papers on line and put the saving towards my TV package which gives me internet access to read anything I want to and of course my access to GN.
nellie nellie I think you are fab and stand up anyone who has the perfect family as I know I certainly don't and never will have.

Probably very wise, Zengran.

Or read one x