Helen Mirren

If you court public attention you have to be prepared for the fact that not all opinions will be favourable. The hair and makeup was bound to attract criticism.

Lovely enviable figure for her age. Terrible make up this time round. We all make mistakes!!!

They are film stars. They out themselves out there. They know they will get their looks criticised as well as praised.

It goes with the job Kevin
HM is literally seeking attention; publicising what ever it was that she was publicising.
It’s water off a ducks back, I’m sure.
If it didn’t go with the territory,
she could have just rocked up in jeans and a Breton top.

Do you remember when a costume designer lady accepted a BAFTA (I think) from Stephen Fry?
She was wearing ‘normal’ clothes.
Fry called her a ‘bag lady’ , and there was a right hoo hah.

This thread reminds me of why I don't much like women.

Just think how you'd feel if your choice of hair, makeup, dress and shoes was picked apart by total strangers.

DanniRae I'm 70 and look in the mirror and think I look stunning too .... and then I put my glasses on .....oh well c'est la vie.

I think it looks absolutely awful. Very unflattering.

I agree Kate ‘horrific’ is a bit harsh. Obviously ‘body shaming’ doesn’t always apply!

Oh no Kate. Not you. I was thinking about the contrast between JC’s face with the huge amount of makeup she wears, including false eyelashes, and hair that I imagine is very much like that of a woman her age (89?) who has had her hair permed all her adult life.

Horrific is a bit harsh. I have no hair and probably would be described as 'horrific' without it.

Exactly Blue and Shep
No way would Joan been seen in public looking anything than perfect.
It’s a pity that the poster didn’t take a photo - such a thing would have sold for £££
However, I reckon that she has fabulous skin under all her slap.
I’d love to know what cosmetics and skin care celebrities like her really use.

I’m surprised JC would be seen at a hairdressers without a wig. She would have them come to her. At her age and especially after so many years of wearing wigs I have always imagined that her real hair is very sparse and the contrast between the heavily made up face and the real hair would be quite horrific.

Yes Fanny the ‘Little wizened old lady’ caught my eye. I would like to know where the person who spotted her has her hair done, as I guess JC would have the celebrity stylist visit her home/hotel!

Apart from the unfortunate comment about Miss Collins sans wig, what have older people ‘been called’ BlueSky?

Joan has the most incredible bone structure.
She ‘gets away’ with heavy makeup because every thing is over the top.
I’ve talked before on here about seasons - Joan is most definitely a Winter, whereas Helen us a Spring or Summer (probably the former).
The lovely Dr Stoppard is a Winter too.
What a stunning couple she and Tom made ?

A couple of weeks back I was chastised on here for saying a famous young girl was ‘plump’ (didn’t know it was a swear word), but it seems OK to call older people anything!

I don't wear any make up and at 73 I look stunning ....... mind you my eyesight isn't that great!!!

Probably because of her black hair.

Yet Joan Collins somehow seems to get away with heavy make-up which no-one else of that age can do.

I bought a black eyeliner pencil a few years ago wanting to wear what was the new fashion for wearing black eyeliner and I looked ridiculous.

Interesting range of comments here. Some of you have said that HM doesn’t have to please other people in the way she looks, which is of course true. I have always thought it’s preferable to be the best version of yourself that you can be, especially when in the public eye. Maybe I have little confidence or self-esteem, but I like to present myself reasonably well. HM does have a lovely figure and looks great in that silver dress, but her make-up is too full on and the hair unflattering. Yes, she’s in her mid/late seventies - why make yourself look older with heavy handed cosmetics?

I saw Miriam Stoppard a few years ago and she looked amazing. She’s always said she has always protected her skin which was like porcelain. She was much more natural looking and stunning than she comes across on tv.

I'm not one to criticise with my hair system, false teeth and contact lenses. A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

‘Wizened old lady’ ? Charming!

I’ve seen Joan Collins in person, she is very heavily made up indeed. What she has is poise, she is very upright, holds her head right up to face the world, and carries herself as if she’s beautiful.

She doesn't say she never has treatmenra, Botox etc, just not surgery.