Oral sex.

The same applies in some well-known books from the past, where a character says or does something that shocks us today. If we delete that passage, we would never know that at that time it was considered OK. Besides, it may be an important part of the plot that they behaved in such a way, and removing it completely changes the meaning of the story.

After all, we are capable of reading a gory murder mystery without believing that murder is a legitimate way to solve a relationship problem. If someone does take that message from it, it is because something in them is already warped by real life.

Elegran

No, leave them there as evidence of the past so that people can see how far we have come from old attitudes, and know to avoid falling into them again. At the same time, make sure that no-one takes the stories as "Gospel truth" of how we should be treating one another but instead realises that it is a demonstration of how badly we can treat one another.

Yes you are right we should learn from history. So go through it and highlight all the bad bits in red.

No, leave them there as evidence of the past so that people can see how far we have come from old attitudes, and know to avoid falling into them again. At the same time, make sure that no-one takes the stories as "Gospel truth" of how we should be treating one another but instead realises that it is a demonstration of how badly we can treat one another.

Had to google that bit from the bible as I did not think it could be that bad. it is Genesis 3.1.6. It is about time someone went through the bible and removed sexist bits and any other nasty bits.

(Albert's piercing)

On the 6, or maybe the 9.

No, she had difficult deliveries, and always dreaded her confinements, all nine of them. However, after the use of chloroform in childbirth was discovered, she argued with her doctors, from her sixth pregnancy until finally in her eighth they agreed to her having it. She said afterwards that it was “delightful beyond measure”

The usual view of pain relief in childbirth then was that it was sacrilege for women to try to subvert God's punishment on Eve for that apple, "Then he said to the woman, “I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you.” Once Victoria set the royal seal of approval of approval on chemically lessening the agony, it became fashionable.

www.ft.com/content/1e2ce5d6-aad3-11dd-897c-000077b07658

Prince Albert has a piercing named after him.

25Avalon

Prince Albert died in 1861 way before Kama Sutra. Queen Victoria must have had very easy childbirths.

The Kama Sutra is based on the carvings on the temples at Khajuraho which were done in the 10 century.

Prince Albert died in 1861 way before Kama Sutra. Queen Victoria must have had very easy childbirths.

It doesn't sound as if she did, if she thought no penetration meant no fun.

Even Queen Victoria knew about sex, and apparently was very enthusiastic about it. When told by her doctor that she must not have any more babies, her reaction was, "Oh! No more fun in bed!"
Whether she knew about 69 is not recorded, but Albert probably did.

Kama Sutra. ?. Published in 1883!

What?!!! They knew about sex even back in 1883?

Luckygirl

There is a pop-up version of the Karma Sutra - I found it once when browsing the bookshops in Hay-on-Wye. Interesting.

Kama Sutra. ?. Published in 1883!

JaneJudge

Luckygirl

There is a pop-up version of the Karma Sutra - I found it once when browsing the bookshops in Hay-on-Wye. Interesting.

such filth
To be fair though Hay on Wye in Brecknockshire does sound like it might be sexual innuendo

Such a lovely town!

Definitely no sex, please, we're British!!

I did say British rather than Welsh because Royal Mail thinks it's in England.

???. This thread is so funny. Who'd have thought it.

Luckygirl

There is a pop-up version of the Karma Sutra - I found it once when browsing the bookshops in Hay-on-Wye. Interesting.

such filth
To be fair though Hay on Wye in Brecknockshire does sound like it might be sexual innuendo

…nearly had my eye out. ?

I wonder what pop's up?

There is a pop-up version of the Karma Sutra - I found it once when browsing the bookshops in Hay-on-Wye. Interesting.

* Beau1958*. Well before that sweetheart. I’ m 76 and I remember Soixante Neuf being discussed when I was at college in the 60s

I bought my kids a pop up book of the facts of life. I honestly thought they’d inserted a free book mark when I opened the penis page. ?

You haven’t heard of 69 ?? it’s been around since my teens and I’m now 63 you either liked it or you didn’t it really wasn’t an issue. Youngsters now watch so much online porn they see so much more than we ever did.

My mother once admitted to having had a wild fit of giggles during an early date with my father.

The reason? He apparently said, "Sook, lassie; dinna blow!" to her.

They always claimed he was gallently lighting a cigarette for her at the time.

Ah hae ma doots! What do you think?

This took place by the way in 1946 on RAF Sylt where Doric Scots wasn't the most common form of English spoken. And they were purportedly watching a film at the time.

In this context I was led to assume that oral sex probably wasn't entirely unknown to RAF Flight Surgeons.

If anyone else needs a translation - many on Sylt did, he said, "Suck, lass, don't breathe on it" and my comment means "I have my doubts"

Our Sex Education consisted of drawing a frog's penis.

However, I have since discovered that frogs don't possess one at all so goodness only knows what that was all about.

Zoejory ? I shouldn't have read that when I was drinking a !

At school we learnt how a baby is born but not how it got there in the first place.
How naive we were.