Massive Dilemma

For what reason did you agree to a house swap Msida, you must have wanted to move from your last home?
I don’t think you have only two choices, what are you going to do if you do take option 1 and the Housing Association say thanks but won’t allow you to move back even if they do evict the new tenants, which seems unlikely because as has been said they may already know about the other house?

But *papermonster did the HA know that you had a property

Thank you Chewbaca

If you know their names and where the owned property is, then Land Registry can tell you who owns it

The assumption here is that these people will be a quite happy to go along with your plan, rather than angry that someone has been poking around in their business.
You need to be very, very wary of approaching strangers.

This sounds a bit like desperate measures. You cannot rule out the fact that the HA are already aware of this fact - they are just as capable of looking on the Land Registry records as you were, and it is more than possible that they do so routinely - there may be circumstances for this couple that caused them to decide in their favour for HA accommodation.

I would feel dreadful about taking a home away from someone - I know you are not happy with your new home; but could your really be happy back where you were, knowing the havoc you would have caused for these people?

It is very early days in your new home and I think you need to give it a fair go.

It would very much depend on what grounds they were given the property. I live in a HA house and for the first 12 months I was here I owned my own home until it was sold.

You re talkative Chewbacca ?

You do realise there could be two people in a family with the same name ! How can you be sure you d get your house back if you did get them out ?
I think you have become very fixated and there’s no way you ll now settle anywhere

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OK so firstly a big thank you to everyone thank you

Secondly I am 100% sure that the wife owns a property because I paid land registry to check who owned the property and the wife's name came up

Now I found out from the housing team today that if the wife of a main tenancy holder has a property there should be no allowance of social bousing

So my choices

1..Call the housing association and make them aware of the situation and ask them for my property back

2. Speak to the tenants, make them aware that Know they own a property and would they like to go back to their property

What shall I do....

If you are able to prove that the new tenants have another property, it would take you some time to come up with conclusive proof presumably? The fact that you haven’t signed is probably not that important if they can demonstrate that you moving to your new property was your request, and they would offer your former property to somebody else rather than let you return, because you asked to move from there in the first place. I’d think very carefully before taking any action. Give yourself time to settle in, and if after a few months you can’t, then request another move.

msida if you know the address of the property they own, you can look it up on Land Registry records to see when it was bought and sold. Alternatively, look on the Electoral Roll.
Yours faithfully,
Miss J Marple

What is it about the new house that is making you unhappy? It can take a while to get used to a new place.

As I understand it, maybe incorrectly, if they are found to be fraudulent, the house goes back into the pool that have to be bid for. So there is no guarantee you would get that house back.

A person would not be entitled to a house in social housing if they do in fact own their own property. The question is do you know this for sure? If so you could inform the HA. Whether you would get your original home back is another issue. You could always put your name down or maybe look for a swap?

Even if it's proved that the other person's tenancy is fraudulent, I doubt the council will do a U turn on their decision.

I can’t understand how someone who owns a house qualifies for a housing association house. People wait years and years for social housing. This is awful IF true. I’m sorry to read you are unhappy with your move but I’m not sure what realistically you can do about it.

Oh I do love a bit of snooping detective work.

Msida
For a start I wouldn’t be signing. Then I’d start being a Miss Marple. You obviously believe what you’ve been told about them owning a house.
I assume you know their name. Look on social media. Some people put far too much info on social media sites ?

If the other couple are proved to have obtained the house fraudulently and that house becomes vacant they might let you move back. Don’t expect that to happen soon if at all, best bet ask for another swap

I wouldn't consider the route you're thinking of taking.
I think it would somehow rebound on me, and I'd end up even more unhappy.

Hmm. Is there no way that you could become happy in your new home?

I don't think it's right to uproot the couple who have moved into your old house, to be honest. They will have gone to a lot of trouble to move (I've only done it twice, and it was very stressful), and it's not their fault that you aren't happy.

I don't know about social housing rules, although I doubt that you are eligible if you won a property - are you sure the information you have is correct? Don't the council do checks to ensure that people have the right number of points, or did you arrange the swap privately?

Even if it's right, it doesn't alter then fact that you moved willingly, and the HA has said you can't change your mind. I can't see them changing their minds, even if they have to evict the other couple - but you don't know what problems that will cause people who haven't, presumably, done you any harm?

Since you found out that the couple own a house after you spoke to the housing association perhaps you could speak to the association again. Do you have actual proof of their ownership or is it hearsay?

but how can you prove that they own a property.
are you sure that legally that property is in their name.
sorry. don't know what to suggest.
can you google local sources of housing advice.
i wouldn't get your hopes up. i can see many v high hurdles.

Oh what a dilemma. I did read your previous post. I have also heard that if you own a property, you are not entitled to social housing. If the paperwork is not signed, then I would assume, you are still entitled to return to your previous house. I have no legal qualifications but someone who is, will probably give you more advice. Good luck !