Dogs everywhere

I come across as a dog hate. I don't like the much but I don't hate them. I hate to see them abused or ill treated and would help one if I saw it in distress.

It's the entitlement of some owners. For instance, most people know that Wetherspoons don't allow dogs. In our local one, a bug, burly man was sitting with a small puppy visible inside his coat. The staff were all young and obviously too scared to confront him. He was looking at them almost daring them to say something. They could have lost their jobs. There was another pub a few doors away he could have used but no. He had to push.

Calendargirl

^TG Rosie can’t read^

I’m sure some owners think they can, probably the ones who give them Christmas presents to open, take them into cafes with dog menus, …..

Oh, and on our Facebook ‘Give For Free’ page today, someone was offering red felt Santa stockings, ‘I’ve Been A Good Doggy’, obviously intended for these intelligent animals who can read the message and unwrap the doggie gifts.

And I was amazed to see people wanted them, doubtless preparing for next Christmas’s doggie gifts.

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Calendargirl

Calendargirl

TG Rosie can’t read

I’m sure some owners think they can, probably the ones who give them Christmas presents to open, take them into cafes with dog menus, …..

Oh, and on our Facebook ‘Give For Free’ page today, someone was offering red felt Santa stockings, ‘I’ve Been A Good Doggy’, obviously intended for these intelligent animals who can read the message and unwrap the doggie gifts.

And I was amazed to see people wanted them, doubtless preparing for next Christmas’s doggie gifts.

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We have friends whose dog writes their Christmas Round Robin letter! Its become a much looked forward to Christmas event in our house as it is so unintentionally hilarious.

Cossy

Oh dear! How quickly this thread deteriorated!

Whilst an “allergy” to dogs is awful, I’ve yet to hear a story (though no doubt some one here will dig one up haha) about a person eating in a restaurant suddenly dying or needing urgent medical attention because there is a dog dining there too. Unlike people with severe food allergies, who are far more likely to be made unwell by restaurants not being vigilant by food ingredients.

Also, sorry again if I’m being pedantic, but lots of people use the word “allergy”, when what they actually have is an “intolerance” and there are differences.

Also, again on hygiene, us dog owners often let our dogs in our kitchens and sitting rooms and also, heaven forbid, on couches, sofas and bad, as I type I have one scruffy (due a professional groom/trim) cocker spaniel, and three mini sausage dogs!

Cocker does ping a bit, but the sausages don’t!

We are a pretty healthy family in terms of anything “contracted” from our much loved family pets and I do always clean everything, dogs bowls, blankets, beds and their bodies are regularly cleaned.

Once a dog lover always a dog lover, all our dogs are always up to date with worming, vaccinations and flea treatments and two annual vet checks, none of them are disgusting or unhygienic. 🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾

Also, sorry again if I’m being pedantic, but lots of people use the word “allergy”, when what they actually have is an “intolerance” and there are differences.

Yes, there are and I'm not sure that you understand that.

Also, again on hygiene, us dog owners often let our dogs in our kitchens and sitting rooms and also, heaven forbid, on couches, sofas and bad, as I type I have one scruffy (due a professional groom/trim) cocker spaniel, and three mini sausage dogs!

You can do whatever you wish in your own house, no-one cares. They can sit on your furniture, sleep in your bed, lick your food plates, stink to high heaven, whatever you wish.

But public places are for people unless specified as accepting dogs and not all may wish to see your dogs sitting on chairs, licking owners' plates etc.

“Allira”

I am entirely sure what you mean by quoting my para about differences between allergies and intolerances? Please may you explain why you think I don’t understand there’s a difference, when I clearly stated that there is?? Do you mean I don’t fully understand the difference?

Allira I’ve stated so many times, on this thread and other previous “dishing dogs” threads and I fully understand, accept and appreciate that not everyone likes dogs, nor would I take my own dogs to hotels, shops or restaurants. I also think if they are in such places they should not be on the chairs or tables nor eat from plates used by “humans”

I’m not entirely sure why you feel you need to post statements seemingly accusing me of things I neither think nor do?

Kate1949

I come across as a dog hate. I don't like the much but I don't hate them. I hate to see them abused or ill treated and would help one if I saw it in distress.

It's the entitlement of some owners. For instance, most people know that Wetherspoons don't allow dogs. In our local one, a bug, burly man was sitting with a small puppy visible inside his coat. The staff were all young and obviously too scared to confront him. He was looking at them almost daring them to say something. They could have lost their jobs. There was another pub a few doors away he could have used but no. He had to push.

I understand your point, I feel the same way about (some) entitled parents who allow their ill behaved feral children to ruin others enjoyment in places and indeed those entitled drunk loud people who do the same.

At least you can try and avoid places which welcome dogs.

Cossy when you've accompanied your child in a blue light ambulance because someone thought it was OK to secretly take their dog into a 'strictly no pets' holiday let the week before you rented it you tend to resent the questioning of such allergies. The frivolous Whilst an “allergy” to dogs is awful, I’ve yet to hear a story (though no doubt some one here will dig one up haha) about a person eating in a restaurant suddenly dying or needing urgent medical attention because there is a dog dining there too. doesn't help either. It's truly no laughing matter to witness your child unable to breathe, if you'd ever been there yourself I'm sure you'd omit the haha.

AGAA4

Cossy your dogs are gorgeous. I do like dogs quite a lot really. I would miss the dogs I regularly meet on my walks but I still feel people shouldn't have to make way for dogs in eateries.

Thank you and I’m the main I agree actually as I’d never take ours shopping, into restaurants or hotels, but I have come across some extremely well behaved dogs whilst eating out, I’ve also seen some bloody awful, noisy and smelly dogs too!

Rosie51

Cossy when you've accompanied your child in a blue light ambulance because someone thought it was OK to secretly take their dog into a 'strictly no pets' holiday let the week before you rented it you tend to resent the questioning of such allergies. The frivolous Whilst an “allergy” to dogs is awful, I’ve yet to hear a story (though no doubt some one here will dig one up haha) about a person eating in a restaurant suddenly dying or needing urgent medical attention because there is a dog dining there too. doesn't help either. It's truly no laughing matter to witness your child unable to breathe, if you'd ever been there yourself I'm sure you'd omit the haha.

My apologies Wasn’t intentionally being sarky and I completely forgot about asthma!

I personally would never ever take a dog to a place and sneak it in, there’s plenty of dog friendly restaurants/hotels etc, no need for anyone to sneak a dog in and I’d never ever do this.

So sorry about your child.

I think some people don't understand asthma and that it can happen suddenly and become life threatening quickly. It is usually caused by an allergen. My allergens on my medical notes after being tested were to 'feather and fur'.
As most pets have either one or the other I have had to be careful all my life.
I couldn't visit anyone who had a pet which was difficult.
Asthma is serious and not a laughing matter.

As l said earlier, I am a dog owner and lover. We have a Cairn Terrier, who is now thirteen going on five. He is our first dog and has been all we wanted him and more. Part of this is because we did a lot of research beforehand to see which breed of dog would suit us best. Most importantly was a dog who did not moult, which would mean he had hair rather than fur as l am highly allergic to most dogs and cats - even more allergic to cats than dogs. A dog with hair rather than fur, who has to be periodically clipped, is generally far better for people who are allergic to animal fur and this has worked for me. I do have an allergy - too much time with most dogs can make my eyes water, give me frantic attacks of sneezing or even provoke an asthma attack. These symptoms are very real and unpleasant.
We had two other criteria when we were choosing a dog breed. We wanted one that would not take up half the living room by himself and, crucially, with the numbers of people coming to my house for music lessons, one from a breed that was known to be friendly. Over the years, he has helped cure a number of children who have had a fear of dogs. Even so, l am very aware that many people do not like dogs and/or are afraid of them. I would never foist my dog on anyone who felt like this.

AGAA4

I think some people don't understand asthma and that it can happen suddenly and become life threatening quickly. It is usually caused by an allergen. My allergens on my medical notes after being tested were to 'feather and fur'.
As most pets have either one or the other I have had to be careful all my life.
I couldn't visit anyone who had a pet which was difficult.
Asthma is serious and not a laughing matter.

I am currently on a three month course of steroids combined with three other medications due to an asthma flare up.

The only thing we (GP’s, myself and family) can pin it on was I went out and part of the venue had a dogs welcome policy. I have battled hard not to be admitted to hospital over Christmas and New Year.

It has been difficult for myself and family.

My daughter's dog allergy is linked to her asthma. She has had some scary times. Yes of course we can avoid dog friendly places. I'm not sure why we should have to. Also when out and about people can't always know where dogs will be.

It’s actually quite difficult to avoid dog friendly eateries unless you phone round loads first to check.On holiday it’s just about impossible to do.

Kate1949

My daughter's dog allergy is linked to her asthma. She has had some scary times. Yes of course we can avoid dog friendly places. I'm not sure why we should have to. Also when out and about people can't always know where dogs will be.

Couldn’t agree more with you.

Musicgirl

Kate1949

My daughter's dog allergy is linked to her asthma. She has had some scary times. Yes of course we can avoid dog friendly places. I'm not sure why we should have to. Also when out and about people can't always know where dogs will be.

Couldn’t agree more with you.

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GG13 I'm sorry you have had a flair up. It's a very distressing condition and frightening when you are struggling to breathe.
I have had a number of attacks that needed urgent treatment.

GrannyGravy13

AGAA4

I think some people don't understand asthma and that it can happen suddenly and become life threatening quickly. It is usually caused by an allergen. My allergens on my medical notes after being tested were to 'feather and fur'.
As most pets have either one or the other I have had to be careful all my life.
I couldn't visit anyone who had a pet which was difficult.
Asthma is serious and not a laughing matter.

I am currently on a three month course of steroids combined with three other medications due to an asthma flare up.

The only thing we (GP’s, myself and family) can pin it on was I went out and part of the venue had a dogs welcome policy. I have battled hard not to be admitted to hospital over Christmas and New Year.

It has been difficult for myself and family.

I hope the medication work although not great to have to take steroids, GrannyGravy.

Yes, I have a DD who has been hospitalised due to severe allergic reactions, more specifically cats and horses although some dogs can trigger it.
It's the fur, dander and saliva in particular

Musicgirl

Kate1949

My daughter's dog allergy is linked to her asthma. She has had some scary times. Yes of course we can avoid dog friendly places. I'm not sure why we should have to. Also when out and about people can't always know where dogs will be.

Couldn’t agree more with you.

So do I.

If places were specifically labelled 'dog friendly' you'd know to avoid them.

AGAA4

I think some people don't understand asthma and that it can happen suddenly and become life threatening quickly. It is usually caused by an allergen. My allergens on my medical notes after being tested were to 'feather and fur'.
As most pets have either one or the other I have had to be careful all my life.
I couldn't visit anyone who had a pet which was difficult.
Asthma is serious and not a laughing matter.

I’ve already apologised and stated I’d completely forgotten about asthma, silly of me and I’d never consider it a joke.

When my elder son was a toddler he had a fit and was blue lighted to to hospital, so I do know this awful experience. In the bed next to us was the sweetest little boy who was on his third visit in 8 weeks due to asthma attacks, his poor mum was distraught.

Again, I unreservedly apologise to anyone I’ve inadvertently angered or upset, it wasn’t my intention.

I won’t comment further on this thread.

Cossy

Kate1949

I come across as a dog hate. I don't like the much but I don't hate them. I hate to see them abused or ill treated and would help one if I saw it in distress.

It's the entitlement of some owners. For instance, most people know that Wetherspoons don't allow dogs. In our local one, a bug, burly man was sitting with a small puppy visible inside his coat. The staff were all young and obviously too scared to confront him. He was looking at them almost daring them to say something. They could have lost their jobs. There was another pub a few doors away he could have used but no. He had to push.

I understand your point, I feel the same way about (some) entitled parents who allow their ill behaved feral children to ruin others enjoyment in places and indeed those entitled drunk loud people who do the same.

At least you can try and avoid places which welcome dogs.

Have people been known to be hospitalised because of an allergy to children?

Drunks, possibly, if they become aggressive.

Last comment promise

1) I wish GG a speedy and full recovery

2) Many places are actually advertised outside and on their websites as being dog friendly, and many state very clearly “No dogs allowed”

Kate1949

My daughter's dog allergy is linked to her asthma. She has had some scary times. Yes of course we can avoid dog friendly places. I'm not sure why we should have to. Also when out and about people can't always know where dogs will be.

We had just had our meal served in a restaurant when I stretched out my legs and hit something. When I looked under the table there was a dog lying there. The couple at the next table hastily removed the dog but I would not have known if I hadn't inadvertently kicked it.
I wasn't affected thankfully but spent the rest of the meal concerned that I might have an attack. Leaving wouldn't behave helped as it only takes a few breaths for the allergy to kick in.
I would not have known about the dog if I hadn't kicked him.