Romance scams

Well 7Kabalee you tried and failed to disrupt all the threads last night so I m surprised you’re still on GN
We’ll see what they have to say
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RosieandherMaw

OldFrill

RosieandherMaw

We" all aren't the same. There are some incredibly emotionally vulnerable people who can be taken coerced and controlled. Often these people seem anything but vulnerable to family and friends. It's really not a joke, it's very sad

Nobody has ever suggested any jokes are involved. Clearly there are emotionally vulnerable people of all ages, but the advice is applicable to all.

Look at what you wrote, "frogs,Princes,Innocent Maidens" all very "ha-ha" on what is a very sad topic. .

Oh for heavens sake - talking about kissing a few frogs before finding a prince (or not) - what is your beef with that Old Frill ? I imagine most of us have been there, done that except maybe some who’re still working their way through frogs .
That’s life.

Innocent maidens - again what is your problem. Having reached the years of discretion (hopefully through a few decades of indiscretion ) I think it is safe enough to say that innocent maidens we are not.
What happened to “lived experience”?
No I don’t feel offended at your criticism perhaps bemused and thank you Iam for your concern, but if I can’t say what I feel on this site with impunity, it’s not for me.
Perhaps that was the intention?
Just one thing - I won’t be bullied,

You asked me a direct question, l responded. You took exception to my saying it wasn't a joking matter and l responded by indicating where I'd interpreted you being jokey
There are one or two on this forum I ignore and they ignore me. We can't all get along and that seems a fair solution. With respect I'll add you to that list.
I'd be grateful if you did likewise.
Happy Days.

I guess loneliness plays a big part in this. Someone giving you attention and listening to you over a period of time. Vulnerable and lonely people can be easy targets.
I sometimes despair when I hear it’s happened again after all the warnings. In saying that I do not know the state of mind the vulnerable person is in so who am I to judge.
My heart does go out to them.

Iam64 🙂

I married a frog who initially seemed like a Prince. It didn’t last dear reader. I saw the light quickly but did thst thing so many women do. I tried harder, in the mistaken belief he’d respond by ceasing to morph into a frog. It didn’t work, how could it.
I packed my bags and was very careful who I kissed thereafter, I found my prince 💙

Hindawi got sentenced to 45 years in prison but was paroled after 26 years.
Why?

Davida1968

I remember that case, Witzend. What is even more awful is (as I recall it) that the poor young woman was pregnant - by the man who had tricked her. It was his intention to kill them both, along with blowing the plane out of the sky. I've wondered about her (& her child) too....

Oh, even worse.

I wonder how she is now?

And I hope he never sees beyond prison walls again.

RosieandherMaw

OldFrill

Smileless2012

Just seen this featured on 'Rip Off Britain' with the usual advice being given, but surely all that needs to be said is never send money to someone you've met online and never met in person.

If only life was that simple eh.

Why isn’t it?
We’ve all lived a good few years, possibly kissed a few frogs whether or not we found a prince,but we’re hardly innocent maidens.
Common sense is just tat, surely?

I actually did kiss a frog years ago.

To be fair it was one of the school Dads dressed up as a frog for a Bastille night. 🐸

I remember that case, Witzend. What is even more awful is (as I recall it) that the poor young woman was pregnant - by the man who had tricked her. It was his intention to kill them both, along with blowing the plane out of the sky. I've wondered about her (& her child) too....

OldFrill

RosieandherMaw

We" all aren't the same. There are some incredibly emotionally vulnerable people who can be taken coerced and controlled. Often these people seem anything but vulnerable to family and friends. It's really not a joke, it's very sad

Nobody has ever suggested any jokes are involved. Clearly there are emotionally vulnerable people of all ages, but the advice is applicable to all.

Look at what you wrote, "frogs,Princes,Innocent Maidens" all very "ha-ha" on what is a very sad topic. .

Oh for heavens sake - talking about kissing a few frogs before finding a prince (or not) - what is your beef with that Old Frill ? I imagine most of us have been there, done that except maybe some who’re still working their way through frogs .
That’s life.

Innocent maidens - again what is your problem. Having reached the years of discretion (hopefully through a few decades of indiscretion ) I think it is safe enough to say that innocent maidens we are not.
What happened to “lived experience”?
No I don’t feel offended at your criticism perhaps bemused and thank you Iam for your concern, but if I can’t say what I feel on this site with impunity, it’s not for me.
Perhaps that was the intention?
Just one thing - I won’t be bullied,

Don’t take the criticism to heart RosiesMaw. You made a direct comment which added to the discussion imo.
Daddima made a similarly direct comment querying how desperate loneliness could result in sending hundreds of thousands to complete strangers.

Inevitably I see different sides here but it’s not unreasonable to reflect on our long lives lived and the hope we’d have learned a thing or two

I don't remember that Witzend, how awful .

Not quite the same, but does anyone else remember the Irish girl who was targeted by a terrorist? He pretended to be in love with her, was going to marry her - in Israel. He got her to buy a ticket for an El Al flight, and shortly before, gave her a suitcase to take, to put her wedding dress in.

However the El Al staff were so switched on, security-wise (they had to be) that they had her down as suspect from the word go, since she didn’t fit any of the usual passenger profiles.

However they let her check in, but immediately checked her baggage - of course it contained a bomb. The bloke had intended to blow up the whole plane, with the poor girl in it.
I’ve often wondered how the poor thing must have felt when she found out what her ‘beloved fiancé’ had planned for her.

I saw one of the Australia border programmes this man probable in his 30 s I believe he was from USa had been sending money to some (non existent ‘ girlfriend’ ) for those ten years He went over to visit her and of course no one was there to meet him The airport workers clearly tried to explain to him he had been scammed obviously he wasn’t allowed in the country and had to return on the next plane but he wasn’t having none of said he would still be supporting her financially when he got back to the states!!!
You just cant argue with stupid

OldFrill some have no family or friends, so crave attention, even just a chat, I feel desperately sad for them and fortunate I’ve got a large social circle along with close family.
You’re right, no one is aware of them, so no changes are noted.

Some very intelligent women (and men I'm sure), sometimes fall for these scams.

Allira

We had a talk on scamming recently at a group I go to. It was surprising how sophisticated some scams are but also quite astonishing how some people can be taken in by unbelievable stories from scammers pretending to be famous people.

Like this one-

youtu.be/dahfNc1ibQc?si=p1LVMy7TF60YeI-A

My friend and I were just talking about this. There is a You Tube channel called Catfished where a woman sent nearly 3 million dollars to someone she had never met. Apart from being amazed that someone could be so gullible, I was amazed at how many ‘ordinary’ looking women have access to so much money.
So, women can be desperately lonely, but why on earth would they send hundreds of thouands to a complete stranger?

I saw that one Kate it was awful and he answered the 'phone to the scammer after she'd died.

I just wonder if the simplest advice would be the best.

RosieandherMaw

^We" all aren't the same. There are some incredibly emotionally vulnerable people who can be taken coerced and controlled. Often these people seem anything but vulnerable to family and friends. It's really not a joke, it's very sad^

Nobody has ever suggested any jokes are involved. Clearly there are emotionally vulnerable people of all ages, but the advice is applicable to all.

Look at what you wrote, "frogs,Princes,Innocent Maidens" all very "ha-ha" on what is a very sad topic. .

Some off these scams are heartbreaking. There was a man on TV whose elderly, widowed mother lost everything to someone online who promised to marry her. She died and her son found a wedding dress hanging in her bedroom.

We had a talk on scamming recently at a group I go to. It was surprising how sophisticated some scams are but also quite astonishing how some people can be taken in by unbelievable stories from scammers pretending to be famous people.

We" all aren't the same. There are some incredibly emotionally vulnerable people who can be taken coerced and controlled. Often these people seem anything but vulnerable to family and friends. It's really not a joke, it's very sad

Nobody has ever suggested any jokes are involved. Clearly there are emotionally vulnerable people of all ages, but the advice is applicable to all.

Sadly, common sense is not common enough.