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Netflix The Crown do you think it is disrespectful?

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Sadgrandma Tue 01-Dec-20 10:58:08

I haven't seen this programme but, from what I have read, it seems to me that it is disrespectful to make a programme about people, royal family or not, without their express permission, certainly if, from what I have read, much of it is fictionalised. What do you all think?

silverlining48 Fri 11-Dec-20 17:04:44

I didn’t enjoy it as much as the earlier series, not because of content but some of the actors just seemed a bit strange especially those portraying Charles and Margaret Thatcher.
As far as I know this will be the last series and Diana’s death will not be serialised. At least not for some time.
Netflix insist it’s a drama which it may well be but I don’t think it’s fiction as am old enough to remember events as they occurred.

Fuchsiarose Fri 11-Dec-20 16:00:22

Not seen it. Not likely to, there are skeletons in everyone's cupboards.

Missfoodlove Tue 08-Dec-20 15:59:01

The RF motto is;

Never complain.
Never explain
Never apologise.

They will remain tight lipped while the “ men in suits” get to work.

eazybee Tue 08-Dec-20 13:01:35

A long time ago there was a series called 'Edward and Mrs. Simpson' dealing with the Duke of Windsor and the events surrounding his abdication, but I don't remember there being any accusations of it being inaccurate. It was not flattering to him; some of the people involved were still alive but I can't remember whether he or his wife were.

Anniebach Tue 08-Dec-20 12:20:00

Diana’s death was arranged by Phillip, Robert Fellows her brother in law and private secretary to the Queen stormed the
Embassy in Paris that night, ordered the hospitals not to treat her, ordered the French police to allow the paparazzi to hound her, a man was seen in the tunnel at the time of the crash, he was on a motorbike with a dog riding pillion , there were ten men in grey suits standing in the tunnel too.

No matter Robert Fellows was attend a lecture in his village that night , a lecture given by a famous author.

This came from people who believed the same as nanna8

nanna8 Tue 08-Dec-20 11:46:03

Wonder if they will go into who arranged Diana’s death in future episodes? Guess it will come out one day in the distant future.

Jaffacake2 Wed 02-Dec-20 15:56:07

Just listened to a podcast on Guardian online with Jennie Bond the Royal correspondent being interviewed about the Crown. Very interesting,recommend it to all .

Anniebach Wed 02-Dec-20 10:47:14

Can a conversation between two people in private be claimed
to be fact ?

Oldwoman70 Wed 02-Dec-20 09:24:03

The difference between a programme like this about the RF and one about any politician or celebrity is that politicians and celebrities can and do respond. The RF don't, so some younger viewers may take what they are watching as a documentary rather than a drama.

Harris27 Wed 02-Dec-20 08:59:09

Not disrespectful but damaging it’s brought a lot to the fore.

lemsip Wed 02-Dec-20 08:54:15

It is based on truth, if embroidered somewhat!

pigsmayfly. Wed 02-Dec-20 08:30:52

Most of us have lived through the history covered by season 4. There were no real surprises in it for me. Most of the events included were presented to us at the time by the media, hence not necessarily factual anyway. Who knows what was said behind closed doors?
For me, the scandal I cannot get past is the one apparently involving Andrew. They lost me as a fan at that point

Galaxy Wed 02-Dec-20 07:51:16

There were numerous dramas about thatcher when she was alive, there have been dramas about Blair etc, the RF are no different.

Dorsetcupcake61 Wed 02-Dec-20 07:45:28

I enjoyed the previous series and eagerly anticipated this one. I dont think it was as good as the others. I found the portrayal of Margaret Thatcher most peculiar, borderline caricature.
Most of the Royal family come across badly,but especially Charles. I'm sure this will undo a lot of the PR from past decade or so
Do I have any sympathy with them? Not really. I think all of them in a variety of ways can be unpleasant and in a protective bubble long before Covid! I think the pandemic has made them even less relatable.
There have been endless biographies/autobiographies/articles on what the Royal family are supposed to be like,not many show them in a good light.
It's also quite easy to forget that a whole generation were born after Diana died and may not realise what is drama and what is fiction. I think the writer justified it as being a drama with emotional truth. Probably a good way of looking at it. Accuracy may be dubious but at the heart of it is a dysfunctional privileged family.
For those who feel the Queen is different? My late father was a Normandy Veteran. They were very dedicated to the Queen and there were several big Anniversaries over the past 20 years. This often involved a lot of travel and standing around in hot weather etc for an increasingly aging group. They did it out of remembrance to those that died and respect for the Queen.
On one of the line ups a veteran who was next to the person was talking to made a comment to which she snapped "speak when you're spoken to". Never been keen on her since!

vegansrock Wed 02-Dec-20 07:18:59

The RF are not gods or above criticism. The Crown is a brilliant series, if only for the amazing costumes and sets. I dare say Wolf Hall wasn’t accurate in terms of actual dialogue but was based on real historical events as this series is. They didn’t actually show the skiing accident it was just a mentioned as an influence on Charles, and the way there are contingency plans for the death of any member of theRF, code names etc. No way was it disrespectful to the unfortunate deceased man, I bet few of us remembered his name. We all know it’s dramatised.

MayBee70 Tue 01-Dec-20 20:25:36

DD watches it and she reckons it could stop Charles from becoming king: she said it’s making her hate him and she is old enough to remember the events of his engagement/marriage to Diana. I don’t particularly want to watch it (can’t anyway) but we usually like the same sort of films and programmes so I am rather intrigued. I did see a bit on gogglebox though.

Jaffacake2 Tue 01-Dec-20 19:43:27

I have watched all the episodes and it brings back memories of the events, Diana and Charles announcing the engagement, the amazing impact she had in Australia at a time when there was a growing call for a republic and her hands on parenting with her babies. We will never know all the story in truth about Charles and Camilla but remember all the media speculation.
It was interesting seeing an episode of " Gogglebox " where the younger generation were watching the stories on the Crown and their reactions . These are the generation who may see changes in the Royalty. Will William be king instead of his father ?
Think the Crown is influencing people's opinions and Charles is not coming out well .

TheBikingGranny Tue 01-Dec-20 18:42:20

Well I for one absolutely loved the series of The Crown and before it arrived on our screens I was not a fan of the RF however this has made me see them in a different light and I have a growing respect particularly for the queen. It is indeed a drama but based on facts. I actually feel I've learned more history through watching the Crown.

GrannyRose15 Tue 01-Dec-20 18:31:26

The trouble is that having drawn us in with three very entertaining and well written series they have decided to do a fourth series which is nowhere near as good. This often happens with TV series and film franchises too. They seem to want to milk the idea for as much as they can. Have only watched two episodes so far but absolutely hate the caricatures and the fact that everyone seems to speak in speeches. Nor do I believe for one minute that the Queen is ever as rude to her guests as has been portrayed on screen.

Anniebach Tue 01-Dec-20 17:31:39

How come they didn’t stop that Panorama interview ?

sodapop Tue 01-Dec-20 17:26:47

Redhead56

I don’t think it’s disrespectful and the Royals do have their own press secretaries. They are in control of what’s allowed for public viewing in the general media and on tv.

I don't think that's true Redhead I'm sure they can't censor what is put in the public domain.

Lucretzia Tue 01-Dec-20 12:35:33

Not keen on it at all.

The first 2 seasons were OK. Filled with inaccuracies but OK

I think the widow of Major Hugh Lindsay thinks it's hugely disrespectful. I tend to agree with her .

She asked Netflix not to include the skiing accident in the programme but they just went ahead.

Anniebach Tue 01-Dec-20 12:35:01

Churchill and Thatcher are dead

Iam64 Tue 01-Dec-20 12:31:44

TV companies have made many programmes about people who are still alive. If you're in the public eye for any reason, its possible you could be next.

I don't see it as disrespectful of Netflix to have made drama out of our recent history. All our Prime Ministers from Churchill to Thatcher have featured along with various other public figures.
I also feel that members of the royal family have been sympathetically portrayed, particularly so where the Queen is concerned. The relationship between her and P Phillip is shown as mutually supportive and loving. It's fascinating to see our country's history with the RF at its centre.

Lucca Tue 01-Dec-20 12:30:00

There’s already a thread about the Crown.....just saying !