Strip Off!

Watching Nadiya Hussain last night was very interesting, and emotional, her hair covered with a coloured hijab and her facial expressions are wonderful!

The black outfit with a covering to the face is the niqab suzied I see them around here occasionally and in Birmingham quite often. The only place I've seen a burka was in Kuala Lumpur.

The only place I've seen a burka was in southend hospital.

I thought the sight of a woman being forced to remove clothing by a group of armed men was appalling.

I can't expose my skin to the sun due to a condition called polymorphic light eruption. I suppose France is now off my list of potential holiday destinations ..... or should I sit on the beach and make myself unwell in order to comply with French law? B..... ridiculous situation.

Hope all the Muslim ladies turn up en masse at a beach somewhere wearing wetsuits - they're remarkably similar to a burkini

would it be nice if lots and lots of women- irrespective of religion, race or ehthnicity- turned up at the beach wearing burkinis or leggings and long t-shirts- and why not, wetsuits- to show support. If I wasn't going awyy on a long planned holiday, I would definitely try and organise this.

I believe M&S sell burkinis. I have been contemplating whether I should buy one, go to Nice, wear it and when the police come point out that I am not muslim and I am wearing it to protect my skin from the sun.

European culture has always placed a high value on being able to see the face. In literature, mythology and culture, those who hide their faces are seen as suspicious, deviant, possibly criminal; ghosts who will not show their faces, visitors in dead of night, the faces muffled, secret messengers etc etc.

She was only wearing a headscarf though, and they made her take her long-sleeved top off too.

I think France has decided that they don't want the women-repressing aspects of a religion, on show in their country. Maybe they gave a point. It's their society.

have a point

ordering a woman at gunpoint to strip off to respect morals, then fining her?

If they want things to change this is not the way to go about it.

Does this mean that a nun can't have a wander down the beach in France?

Well, that would be interesting, wouldn't it!
A nun being threatened with pepper spray by armed police and forced to strip
And fined for not respecting good morals.

Josephine Liptrott
Yesterday at 10:05 · London ·
(copied from FaceBook)

"Just to be absolutely clear, only ONE of these is illegal on French beaches."

You've not travelled in Muslim countries then petra.

Nellie I saw that photo on FB too. It makes the point very clearly doesn't it?

This mace me smile

I must be the only poster who doesn't do Facebook/Twitter etc

Anya
Yes I have. Egypt, Morroco, Tunisia, Turkey ( secular) i saw the Niqab in all of them, of course, but not the burka.

Loads of burkas round here. UK city.

..and niqabs, and other forms of muslim dress. Men wearing muslim dress too, and kids on way to mosque. Kids' school uniform comprises a black headscarf and long dress if wished.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering

www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/01/france-burqa-ban-upheld-human-rights-court

Yes, gettingonabit, that is where France is very different from us in what is prohibited in the way of religious attire. I assume their fear is that such clothing aligns those wearing it with terrorism.
I had a young French girl from Normandy staying with us a few months ago and she was horrified to see women wearing the niqab in London as she had assumed it was illegal. If that is how the next French generation are being brought up to view things, then I fear such decisions may well bring about disaster.

I am confused- what is difference- burka, hijab, niquab? I know one is a head covering, and one is a face covering, and not sure what the other one is- is it the whole body thing? Which is which? I see them all here in London.

www.theguardian.com/world/french-burqa-and-niqab-ban