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To be furious at further royal privileges

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bluebell Sat 29-Jun-13 11:06:28

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/royal-family-granted-new-right-of-secrecy-2179148.html

Ceesnan Sat 13-Jul-13 11:16:20

Are you saying, when, that if you had been born into a life a wealth and privilige that you would have rejected it?

Ceesnan Sat 13-Jul-13 11:17:54

Because I'm damn sure that not many would!

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 11:40:06

I'm saying that a life of entitlement, power, status and position that has occurred purely by accident of birth is not just, and why should this one family continue to take all those privileges that they have not acquired in any way other than being born to it? I'm in favour of a republic, not royalty.

If I had massive wealth I would disperse it, not live a life of being pampered and waited on hand and foot.

Ceesnan Sat 13-Jul-13 13:33:58

She may indeed be waited on hand and foot, but when you take into consideration the fact that last year she took on approximately 430 engagements, and by doing so gave a heck of a lot of people a little pleasure then surely she is earning it. However, you have your opinion and I have mine, so let's just agree to disagree smile

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 14:31:46

Yes, I'm happy to agree to disagree Ceesnan We all have our own views and beliefs.

A few republic-minded Gransnetters have explained their stance, but no royalty fans have explained why they accept that royals should keep the privileges and assumed entitlements they have acquired over the centuries?

merlotgran Sat 13-Jul-13 15:23:26

Could it be that we don't feel we have to justify anything, when?

I'm sure the 1,200 employees in the Royal household not to mention all the businesses who benefit and people employed in spin-off industries like racing, farming, fishing, land management, tourism etc., etc., are all glad of their jobs.

merlotgran Sat 13-Jul-13 15:24:22

The republican argument seems to be the same old, same old......accident of birth. hmm

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 15:35:09

I didn't use the word 'justify' Merlot. I was interested to know what makes it acceptable. I'm not angling for an argument - it's a discussion. Peace!

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 15:53:23

I found this Huff Post article from last year interesting because of the variety of comments posted after it - they run to a third page.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/philip-hepple/royal-family-has-run-its-course_b_1846902.html

merlotgran Sat 13-Jul-13 16:21:55

The point of a comedy article is surely not to take it seriously? confused

Spitting Image had a great take on the Royal Family behind closed doors but I don't think it produced many republicans.

I'm quite happy to accept the Royals for who they are and what they do.

Ceesnan Sat 13-Jul-13 16:23:25

I honestly don't know why I think it's acceptable, to me it's just the way it's always been and I see nothing wrong with it. I certainly don't resent them having a life of wealth and privilige, why should I? I might envy parts of their lifestyle, who wouldn't like unlimited funds for example? It's not a proper answer, just the way I feel..... It ain't broke etc etc.

Lilygran Sat 13-Jul-13 16:24:41

If you click on when's link AND read the comments, you may come to the same conclusion as me, that they seem to have covered the arguments quite comprehensively! Did you read them, when ?

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 16:31:08

Yes, I did, lilygran. That's why I posted it because I hadn't seen as many accepting views as on there. I don't agree with them all, obviously, but I did think it would be good to share the range of views. smile

whenim64 Sat 13-Jul-13 16:33:08

Merlot yes, it's a comedy article, but as I said before it's the comments afterwards that I found interesting.

merlotgran Sat 13-Jul-13 16:38:12

I had a look at the comments but it's all been said before.

We have a monarchy, the Queen is doing a good job in my view and I hope the monarchy continues to thrive. Of course republicans are entitled to have their say so we'll have to wait and see what happens when the Queen dies.

Nonu Sat 13-Jul-13 16:43:48

Who on earth is this bloke to comment on the Royal Family.

I did not find even faintly amusing.

Probably some third rater, [embarressed] for him

Ariadne Sat 13-Jul-13 17:40:29

He is a former barrister and a well known journalist; this article is from "The Independent" but he has worked / does work for the "Daily Mail". in both cases he is editor of home affairs.

Anyone can comment on the Royal Family, I suppose.

MOGGSY77 Sun 14-Jul-13 03:28:48

The latest brood mare, who incidentally is the only member of the royal family to have gained a genuine University Degree in her own right was too unwell through morning sickness to attend a function honoring the dead and disabled soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The following evening she was fit enough to attend a Sun newspaper event honoring sportspersons on the day the body of the Asian nurse who felt so guilty at letting the royal family down was being flown back to her family in India. Both functions were a very short Royles Royce journey from whichever palace suits their individual whim to stay at any given time.
I watched the event honoring the Afghanistan event and was greatly moved by the young lass medic who rightly received a medal for immense bravery for " only doing her job " saving the the life of " the Boss." I switched off the Sun program in disgust when the tv commentator made great play of the Duchess of whatever they please to bestow on each other made great stress on her bravery in leaving her sick bed to attend the event. Remind me monarchists, just how many mattresses did the fairy tale princess suffer greatly by feeling the pea through.
3,000,000 kids dragged into poverty because "we " cant afford it. Round spherical objects
Peter

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 07:16:08

I agree with your sentiments, but brood mare's a bit strong, Peter hmm

Aka Sun 14-Jul-13 08:02:15

If you've ever seen a brood mare being covered by a stallion then I think you'd know, that in this day and age, the term is frankly ridiculous Peter.

Bags Sun 14-Jul-13 08:53:03

Have you ever been pregnant, moggsy? Do you know anything about morning sickness? It's perfectly possible to feel foul on day and fine the next, you know.

I'm a cool-headed republican, btw.

Bags Sun 14-Jul-13 08:54:12

one day

No objection to the phrase "brood mare". It's just a way of saying fertile young animal, which Kate is.

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 09:02:34

I think the 'brood mare' reference in this case was being used as a derogatory term for this woman, bags. No objection to its use in the usual context smile

Bags Sun 14-Jul-13 09:09:47

It wouldn't bother me to be called (have been called; too late now!) a brood mare. I don't suppose it bothers Kate either, if she even knows that the moggsies of this world refer to her thus.

Tegan Sun 14-Jul-13 09:14:48

I don't wish to speak ill of the dead but think that it was later revealed that the nurse that committed suicide had tried to do so before and therefore the incident at the hospital may not have been the sole reason for her death.