... to feel angry about single mother of 11 getting new house built for her!!

I think we all know not all those members post regularly on here. Those of us who look in every day notice new names. I still maintain that a bit of judgement wouldn't go amiss before deciding to challenge someone's opinion.

Stansgran What do you mean "I think neither nature nor nurture will have the slightest effect on any of these children"?

Ana Surely one of the main points of discussions on Gransnet is to do just that – discuss issues and express opinions. No one has been impolite to anyone else, so what's the problem?

These disputes would be less frequent if members read all the thread before jumping in and agreeing or disagreeing with a previous post.

That's right, Ella! But there is usually an adverse reaction to that suggestion. And the sound of sticks being firmly seized by the wrong end!

#356posts

I tend to think of the GN threads as normal conversations. Sometimes I might be there at the beginning and sometimes I might pop in a bit late and need to have a quick catch up before "having my pennies worth" . Having said that there are times (I bet quite a few of us would agree) when you read something quite late on in the thread and just can't be arsed bothered to go all the way back to the beginning, you add something and then think oooops I wish I had put my brain in gear before I said that.

I think I am more angry about how many posts have been wasted made on this non story over a very long time now than I ever am about this house being built.

Its a story that has been blown up out of all propoportion. Are the new contributors just looking for a story to whinge on about. "This is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing."

Do some poster just enjoying have their predudices misconceptions confirmed by innacurate and biased reporting.

#ducksforcover!

Ana, I am so glad we agree that some judgement should be brought into play before posting on an old thread.

We can't change what is already happening but there should be less financial incentive to produce children other people have to provide for. Maximum child benefit payment for 3 children only, might be a start.

If people want a big family fine but they must be responsible. I'm sick of hearing about RIGHTS, there has to be responsibility too.

The first time I got mad about irresponsible people I was 26(now 30years older), husband working all hours. Whilst waiting for my two eldest sons at the school gates, a woman was crying because her husband had been pushed by the employment people to take a job, they had 6 children. She kept saying they couldn't manage if he worked. I was unimpressed! Needless to say he didn't work long. They had 13 altogether, they had two council houses knocked together and every electrical item you could then get. I find this mindset of entitlement completely alien and immature, where is their pride?

I have 4 children, I had child benefit; but me and my husband never expected anything from any one. Cash was very tight at times so we did without. No holidays, no new clothes, no nights out, etc. Call me old fashioned but I will never understand people smoking and drinking saying they haven't money to feed their family.

I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by the post's on this Thread because... Gnetters are mostly hard working people that have contributed most of their life, but here, have still shown an understanding of how other people may choose to live their lives and although, a few were understandbly angry, most have not shown too much negativity, I think thats brilliant that Gnetters have good souls and do not wish to be so Judgemental of other people, regardless to what they may or may not have done.x x x x

Some time ago somebody posted quite an unpleasant comment about some gransnetters frequently boasting of their achievements, etc. Reading some of the posts on this thread I am reminded partly of that comment and partly of the Monty Python guys outdoing each other about sleeping in cardboard boxes, going to school with no shoes in the snow all year round and having to get up several hours before they went to sleep.

Yes. I vaguely remember posting that absent.

You had a cardboard box? You were lucky!

Time to duck Tinny I got lambasted for suggestion child benefit should be limited so you'd better take cover! unless of course it was just the same old, same old taking another pot shot at me.

Movedalot (((hugs))) (Yeah right! like you need 'em)

Thanks j08, yes of course I do! . I give as good as I get but still wish it wasn't necessary.

Just don't venture out without your Kevlar

Nobody in their right mind would go out without their Kevlar .

Not on this forum anyway!

Tinny I agree with you, but I'd stop at 2 children.

Was it you j08? I certainly didn't have you in mind, but I know someone posted quite a sarky and offensive comment to that effect and caused a fair amount of upset at the time. I suspect your wink says it all.

Why should people have council houses?.
No member of our known family lives in a council or any form of rented house except as students.

Frank

That's a strange question Frank surely you must be aware of other people's circumstances outside your own circle. Like you I consider myself lucky to be a home owner, but not every one has been fortunate enough to have the money to go down this route. Affordable housing/council housing needs to be there to provide for those who don't have enough income to buy their own homes. You must also be aware that the younger generation, through no fault of their own, are finding it increasingly difficult to get on the housing ladder. Home ownership has not always been the answer for everybody, particularly when irresponsible lenders have encouraged people to borrow recklessly and they then have to default on their mortgage.

Hunter that is crass! You know the answer to your own question. I don't usually bother to post about what you say and sometimes wish others would do the same.