Unattended Grandsons

Sounds really awful, and worryingly unsafe.

How close by do they live, slim?

I agree about talking to the school - if the statutory services can't intervene on your say-so, then the school might alert them.

It's difficult. It would be hard to prove actual neglect, even with all the details in your post, but it's very poor parenting

Talk to NSPCC US equivalent, family doctor, school, nursery, health visitor (or US equivalent) - everybody! No doubt you will fall out with DD over this, but the risks are too high to let that stand in your way.

You are not making a fuss - if all that you say is true then the children are at risk.

My heart aches for you and those kids, slimgramma! I don't get the authorities in your state and how they could ignore all this! Maybe they think, ok, kids fall and it's not as if they've being abused or going unfed. But when one puts everything together it spells "endangerment" to me. Please keep bringing it up to CPS, as awkward and aggravating as that may be. Document everything - even take pictures of injuries if you have to. If they finally investigate and your DD and SIL suspect that you GPs reported them, they may be very angry and keep the kids away from you for a while. But I think it may be a worthy sacrifice to make for your GC's safety.

For now, I hope you and the other GPs continue to take the kids as often as possible, as exhausting as I know it can be. You are providing a safe haven for them. Bless you (and the other GPs)!

We do have that here. Too many with as they call it "more serious issues!" UGH. We don't want to bury another grandchild.?

sorry, thought you were Uk based. I think you have something similar in the US. National society for the prevention of cruelty to children.

BlackeyedSusan..I'm not sure what the NSPCC is. I'm in the U.S. I do have a cousin in England. Maybe I'll ask her.

Oh my. I forgot that part! The kids are shipped off to both sets of grandparents, friends etc whenever possible. They get plenty of time to relax but won't admit it. So sorry I sound horrible but wasn't sure where to turn before I blasted her with a horrible email. My ex and his wife are the other grandparents. (Yes we are friends.? we all agree.

eek.

Sounds like my ex. Totally incapable of seeing consequences for actions) Do you make a note of what they tell you and when?

I know it is not your responsibility, but could you babysit to give the parents a bit of a break so they may be more attentive on the times they do have them?

have you spoken to the NSPCC?

Hi Nelliemoser. No, I myself and DD live in the U.S. I have read and read about contacting children's services and what they consider "neglect". Unfortunately there must be an awful amount of truly "neglected" because my worries don't seem to be a big thing here. When my first grandson passed (the story is long) my daughter barely got a slap on the hand.

slimgramma

Do they live in the UK? I get the impression they don't.

If you feel the children are at risk or left without good supervision you should consider contacting the police or children's services.