New asylum rules

If our government deems it safe I should think, since we’re the ones giving asylum.

It will never work because lawyers will say their countries are not safe. They will be fighting over each other to represent these people.

In the finer detail, I believe in line with Denmark, it's been suggested the removal of jewellery. I don't like the idea of taking highly personal items such as wedding rings, or even religious symbols or personal keepsakes/heirlooms that would seem wrong to me.

I admire her for trying to tackle this problem, but too many snowflakes in this country who’ll try and stop her at every turn.
Happens all the time.

The CEO of the Refugee Council, can’t recall his name, thinks it won’t work.

In the words of Mandy Rice Davies ‘Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he?’

Enver Soloman, I heard him today. He was very measured in what he said and it made sense.

It'll never happen while we're hamstrung by ECHR. Just wish this/previous governments would grow some balls regarding this issue.

"If a government believes a country is safe and they have not lived or travelled thoroughly in that country; perhaps they should live in that country for 1 year, and then see if it is safe for those seeking Asylum" ..

Such horrorific measures slashed upon desperate peoples and their children.

There are so many types of labour that could be a justified means of living in Asylum in another country, be it The U.K. or The European Union.

I'm listening to the ideas and the discussion on them. I'm not going to leap to immediate judgment, as there is much to unpick.

Clearly some measures are needed.

But it is worth mentioning that some human rights measures are going to be re-visited in terms of "Terms and conditions".

We shouldn't assume as some seem to above all measures are hopeless and not worth undertaking, for what is the alternative? Leave matters as they are?

Neither should we assume that all is lost in terms of those who come and make good in the country. If you assume that, you have missed the clear mentions of the continuing rights of people to apply for work and study visas.

I am appalled by the proposals and have written to my MP to say so.

Kandinsky

I admire her for trying to tackle this problem, but too many snowflakes in this country who’ll try and stop her at every turn.
Happens all the time.

Care to elaborate? Who are these ( so called ) snowflakes?

Taking jewelry will go down well with some I suppose.

Jewellery and wedding rings will not be removed goverment says.

Bridie22

Jewellery and wedding rings will not be removed goverment says.

How kind. So they are not going to rip the wedding ring off somebody and melt it down.

Fine in theory but when it happens I will believe it.

Dept For Work and Pensions announced today that 66% of refugees are claiming Universal Credit!!

That blows the theory right out of the water that they are all supposed to be Doctors, Engineers, Dentists and other very qualified people.

Thanks Wyllow for expressing a less polarised, negative view on the proposals.
I’m liking Mahmood in her new role. It seems obvious to the majority, that those in the majority are in despair about the extent of immigration and asylum seeking. No doubt people fleeing wars will seek and gain asylum

Denmark has a left leaning government. People pay high taxes for good public services. It’s what I’d like to see here. It’s working in Denmark ……

Is that people with settled status Primrose? Those seeking refugee status don’t get UC

I’m sure you’re aware that doctors, engineers, dentists will surely enter by application through legal routes. I’ve known doctors, nurses etc given settled status. One former teacher became a very good foster carer

Iam64

Is that people with settled status Primrose? Those seeking refugee status don’t get UC

I’m sure you’re aware that doctors, engineers, dentists will surely enter by application through legal routes. I’ve known doctors, nurses etc given settled status. One former teacher became a very good foster carer

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/how-many-refugees-receive-benefits/#:~:text=Data%20from%20the%20Department%20for,the%20adults%20with%20refugee%20status.

Data from the Department for Work and Pensions show that 112,000 people with refugee status were claiming Universal Credit in December 2024, equivalent to 66% of the adults with refugee status.7 hours ago
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

This is unsurprising as they are unable to work.

The link concludes for various reasons the figures will overstate the numbers with settlement who claim benefits.

As Casdon reminds us, those seeking status aren’t allowed to work.

Im not disputing the level of anxiety, even anger, being expressed about the continuing increasing numbers of people seeking asylum. I find it worrying that those seeking sanctuary are being dehumanised

Where do many of the asylum seekers come from anyway? They pitch up without any documentation whatsoever.

And if, as is claimed, they are fleeing terror and persection then why are the majority men who seem content to leave their womenfolf behind to face these horrors?

Typo correction: womenfolk.

TerriBull

In the finer detail, I believe in line with Denmark, it's been suggested the removal of jewellery. I don't like the idea of taking highly personal items such as wedding rings, or even religious symbols or personal keepsakes/heirlooms that would seem wrong to me.

Why would they propose doing that?
It sounds like legalised theft, taking personal possessions.

It does not mean personal items.
I suppose if the jewellery was worth a considerable sum, then, as is the norm with UK citizens, it is a form of means-testing.