ULEZ

DH’s beloved 4 X 4 is non compliant, which is a pain as it’s a 7 seater and we use it to go into London with AC & GC, will pay the £12.50 as it’s still cheaper to drive into London than train tickets for 7.

If it’s just the two of us and/or two of the youngest GC we will use my car which is compliant.

It doesn't affect me but may do in the future if it comes to Manchester. I think it is the right thing to do, air quality has become too bad to ignore. This will save lives for sure, but there should be a comprehensive scheme, Government funded, to help people change their cars and vans to comply.
It should also not be used as a tool to attack Sadiq Khan, who has shown backbone and leadership over this.

A reminder that the ULEZ policy was introduced by Johnson when he was London Mayor and that its extension was insisted on by Grant Shapps as a condition for monetary assistance to TfL during the covid crisis.

Now politicised by the tories who have, ahem, very short memories.

What I can't understand is if it truly is being done for health reasons, why aren't non-compliant vehicles simply banned from the zones? Do these polluting vehicles stop polluting once they've paid the charge.......of course not! And why do those vehicles registered before 1973 get an exemption, is their pollution less damaging somehow?

It should be remembered it was bicycling Boris Johnson who first initiated these zones. Sadiq Khan is only expanding and continuing it. I'm in the zone but have a compliant car so am not adversely affected.

I am thinking the same as Rosie51. It seems it is just a money making exercise. Is the money raised going to 'Green' policies ie grants for home insulations etc.

As Maizie says, the Tories do indeed have short memories, as they started this policy with Boris.

My car is compliant, my sympathy is with people who do not have a compliant car and rely on it for work, carers, trade people and also people who need care, and their carer cannot afford to update their cars.

I’m very much in favour of it and I do think all political parties know it is the way to go in the future- they just want to disagree!
I travel into London quite frequently for occasional work and have used the train( when available) for years even though my car is compliant: it is cheaper and more pleasant.
I do think that as more measures to save resources and the planet are rolled out, we will all be inconvenienced to a greater or lesser degree and have to adjust our mindset, rather as we have over recycling

Rosie51

What I can't understand is if it truly is being done for health reasons, why aren't non-compliant vehicles simply banned from the zones? Do these polluting vehicles stop polluting once they've paid the charge.......of course not! And why do those vehicles registered before 1973 get an exemption, is their pollution less damaging somehow?

It should be remembered it was bicycling Boris Johnson who first initiated these zones. Sadiq Khan is only expanding and continuing it. I'm in the zone but have a compliant car so am not adversely affected.

If they banned all non compliant vehicles what would happen to the owners of non compliant vehicles who lived within the area. Would they just have to park them up or just scrap them.
Our vehicle is most definitely non compliant it’s a 3”5ltr diesel Jaguar made in 2012 but in beautiful condition and to change it for an electric model would be mega bucks.

MaizieD

A reminder that the ULEZ policy was introduced by Johnson when he was London Mayor and that its extension was insisted on by Grant Shapps as a condition for monetary assistance to TfL during the covid crisis.

Now politicised by the tories who have, ahem, very short memories.

Yes, this should be emphasised.

It’s affected me and at least 3 family members. My diesel Qashqai non compliant as were my GDs corsa, my GSs work van etc. I gave my car to another GS who doesn’t live in London and I thankfully had the means to buy a compliant small car. The others have had to scrap perfectly working vehicle for the pittance of 2K and take on finance to replace them.
I feel it’s very unfair for those who live inside the ULEZ and use cars for work and now on top of everything else have to fork out £60+ a week to be able to keep their jobs.
No wonder they are damaging the cameras and calling it the Wrath of Khan.🤬

We live in Kent but are half a Mile each way from two London boroughs. In order to get anywhere there is no option other than to use ‘their’ roads.
Luckily out little car is compliant so a relief but was very concerned initially . However do feel for those with cars that aren’t. It affects us despite having had no say in the matter.

My youngest daughter lives on the very edge of the London Borough of Bromley. Their two vehicles are compliant but my eldest daughter has a 2014 plate Peugeot 5008, 7 seater, which isn't compliant and it will cost her to visit her sister. She needs a 7 seater as she has 3 growing girls and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the car.
I do accept that big cities need to reduce C02 emissions but the very edges of most London boroughs are countryside with a lot less pollution.

Sar53, can't the younger one go visit the elder ?

I do think ULEZ is necessary. I live in a rural area and when I go to London I can smell the air which I can't do at home. I think of all the people with asthma and other lung diseases breathing in that polluted air every day.

Welbeck, with all due respect, that is not the point. They both visit each other regularly. Where DD2 lives it is on the borders of countryside and not at all built up.
As I have said I do believe we need to reduce C02 emissions but this charge is very unfair on older people who cannot afford to change their cars.
This will stop a lot of older people going anywhere. Not everywhere has good public transport especially in the outer reaches of South London Boroughs.

My 10 year old car is ULEZ compliant as is DH's 2005 SAAB estate, so many quite old cars are ULEZ compliant and the average life of a car going to scrap is 15 years, I am surprised that this scheme is causing so much problem.

I stand to be corrected but we checked again yesterday and I thought cars registered before 2006 are not compliant.

My car is 10 years old too and I still see it as fairly new ...it’s in excellent condition with nothing going wrong, so far anyway.

I think all the panic whipped up by the media pre - by-election has now been shown to have been unnecessary, and contrary to a healthy environment in which to bring up our children.

Reports produced at the beginning of the year showed it was working. Khan stands by his principles.

NannyJan53

I am thinking the same as Rosie51. It seems it is just a money making exercise. Is the money raised going to 'Green' policies ie grants for home insulations etc.

As Maizie says, the Tories do indeed have short memories, as they started this policy with Boris.

Although Ken Livingstone introduced the congestion charges in the first instance.

Is the ULEZ charge in addition to the Congestion charge?

M0nica

My 10 year old car is ULEZ compliant as is DH's 2005 SAAB estate, so many quite old cars are ULEZ compliant and the average life of a car going to scrap is 15 years, I am surprised that this scheme is causing so much problem.

I thought yours was the same as mine, M0nica, although mine is a year younger, and having just checked, mine is not ULEZ compliant.

It's a cash cow. Various tests show it will make little difference. Someone, from a radio station, was trawling London this morning, with an official measure thing of pollutants - the areas that were most polluted was the London Underground,, followed closely behind by inside Waterloo Station.

I have breathing and lung problems - the air I breathed in a village in Sussex was no better than I am breathing now in an outer London leafy suburb.🙄

It's descended into chaos anyway::

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12456717/ULEZ-expansion-destroy-cameras-Sadiq-Khan.html

Roll on next May's mayoral election. 👏

Callistemon I have a Hyundai i120, with a 13 number plate and I have double checked it. It is ULEZ compliant.

My previous car, a Toyota Yaris, 20 years old, was only 6 months too old to be ULEZ compliant.

sliverlining48 The Transport for London site says: ^
Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001^

It’s not going to raise much cash and the money is going on public transport which the government do not subsidise . I’m in the ULEZ zone and am all in favour. Khan refuses to stop free transport for the oldies and under 16s which the government want him to do. The hope is that there will be fewer and fewer non compliant vehicles . Many other cities will copy . The Tory
Mayoral candidate is ghastly.