Traingate

So who do you believe about the saga, the people who were on the train, or the person who owns the train company, doesn't want it nationalised, and doesn't pay his taxes properly?

Branson has many reasons to get back at Corbyn.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/08/23/who-do-you-believe-about-corbyns-train-trip-the-profit-making-rail-company-or-the-politician-set-on-re-nationalisation/

I would like to know the CCTV timeline. It does make Jeremy Corbyn look as if he was embellishing the truth, but the way the MSM are laying into him, I would like further evidence.

This could be damaging for him, so it is important to investigate further. I really hope he didn't try a PR stunt.

thatbags, love the thread title, it gave me s giggle . I haven't travelled by train for years, does it cost much more money to reserve a seat ?

I don't care who is or isn't telling the truth about the story. PR stunts from both sides is what looks most likely.

I'm just reminiscing about having to sit on floors of trains when the railways were nationalised and so wondering why Corbyn seems to think it would make a difference now, since it didn't then.

You never do get piss-takes, do you, dj?

There's an article in the Independent about it, Pollen.
What happened was that the staff moved a family into first class so that Corbyn's group could have their seats.
Corbyn had said that he would not upgrade to first class. I thought that MPs were not supposed to travel first class anymore, after the Osborne fiasco a few years ago.

No, I don't think reserving a seat costs much, or anything, but I do think it costs more to travel by train nowadays. I don't remember thinking it was awfully expensive between Preston and Dundee when I was a student, but I do think it is now so not unreasonable to expect a seat.

However, what kind of a dopey team didn't book seats anyhow?

Blah, blah, blah, dj. Lighten up!

Perhaps you ought to lighten up and stop criticising Corbyn so much.

ab, I pinched traingate off Twitter

So Corbyn sat on the floor, how many in his team? Also allegedly sitting on the floor were three other people, the staff upgraded a family and seated Corbyn and his team,no one could have got off the train , it didn't stop. Must have been a large family who were upgraded . We need Miss Marple on this. Surely Corbyn didn't leave the three people on the floor

No matter thatbags, it gave me a giggle , thank you

I don't go by articles in any paper DJ. Every train has CCTV, so it needs to be examined, for the timeline. It is important, and I am prepared to be shot down if he really did not find himself without a seat.

However, his honesty is being called into question here, and if he lied.. Well I might have to vote Tory, because they are upfront weasels .

Couple of tweets under the hashtag #traingate.

Chuckle.

Anniebach, stop giggling, it sounds as if you see yourself as superior,which has no place in a political discussion!

So how do you find out about the timeline if you do not follow it in news articles, Pollen?
Virgin has put out the stills it thinks are important. Passengers have put out their photos.
It's on the independent website.
Do you believe anything you read on Gransnet?
It's the same as an independent or other news website.

Do you have independent sources to verify everything you read?

But this isn't a political discussion, it's a discussion were there seats on a train, how many in the family who were upgraded, and were the other three passengers left to sit on the floor. Also the most worrying part is the fact the first explanation given today was there were seats by 11.30 because passengers got off the train which didn't stop untill approx 1pm. What I want to know is - did they jump or were they pushed , if pushed who pushed them.

It's in news and politics, so is a discussion. If you just wanted to chat, it should have been put in chat.

If you read the independent website, you will find a good defence.
On the other hand, if all you want is to laugh at Corbyn, just carry on.
Pollen wanted to know who was lying.
I've been on that train, and had to stand from Peterborough to Doncaster.

I said it was not a political discussion, it 's a discussion on seats on a train , and I do not need your permission to laugh at anyone or anything Jen.

One paper I read is Breitbart. There is so much propaganda around, for instance the 13 year old child with a bomb on him which was filmed by a journalist 3 feet away (with no thought for his safety).

I don't trust MSM and Virgin stills could have been taken at any time.

I am a Corbyn supporter with no part of this Momentum group you speak of Anniebach. I still think that giggling is immature on a political forum, but absolutely fine on chat.

DJ cross post. Well said.

I giggled at the thread title, gosh corbynites are getting very worked up.

BBC News, two people were upgraded to make room for Corbyn and his team to sit together.

So two people are upgraded which leaves two empty seats , I assume he has a team of more than one , so there must have been some empty seats

Perhaps they sat on the floor, and he just swapped with one of them for the photos.

This thread comes under news and politics. Given that "Traingate" is in the NEWS, what is the problem. And surely of us who may be giggling are perfectly entitled to do so without having our wrists slapped pollengran.
The incident reminds me of that well known journalistic cliché " Never let the facts get in the way of a good story"