Flue and water infection

You say you don’t want antibiotics but you may well need them I m afraid
I ve had many water infections over the years but never been able to get rid of them with self help once they are established I ve occasionally stopped one from starting with regular bicarbonate of soda drinks ( horrible) to neutralise the acidity but not once it’s took hold
I would go to your doctor and get proper treatment before it travels to your kidneys

You can get sachets of powder (to mix with water), containing sodium citrate or potassium citrate. If your symptoms don’t clear within a few days you should speak to your doctor or the pharmacist as you risk damage to your kidneys. Drink plenty of plain water and take paracetamol or ibuprofen for the pain.
Hope you feel better soon.

What bluebell said.

It is a marketing myth that Cranberry juice has any effect on either preventing or helping to cure any sort of UTI. Plain water, a lot of it can help to flush through a mild one. However, once one gets a grip, so as to speak, often requires anti-biotics to deal with it.

Do think, as with any infection, the best person to ask is the GP rather than strangers on-line. Doctor will require a sample to be tested at the lab to know WHICH infection so as to know which anti-biotics are appropriate.

What Bluebelle said applies.

I agree too. You really need to get a urine sample to your GP, ASAP, to avoid damage to your kidneys.

I agree with the previous comments. If you have a UTI you definitely need antibiotics to prevent the infection damaging your kidneys.
It should also be understood that an underlying, untreated infection can lead to sepsis which is a very serious infection indeed and will require treatment in hospital.
By all means, drink plenty of fluids but do get the proper medication before your condition deteriorates.

Urinary infections can be very difficult to shift, even with antibiotics. They can settle into the wall of the bladder where only the right antibiotics can "get at them" to completely clear them out, so they return after you think you have them on the run (pun intended).

Plain water flushes out the bladder and gets rid of the bugs that are just in the urine and in the surface folds, but you need to see your GP and get it diagnosed and the appropriate medication prescribed to shift it altogether. Don't risk damaging your kidneys - that is even harder to cure.

Cranberry juice will aggravate a UTI, if you don’t want antibiotics then buy D-Mannose high strength and take 3 a day for 4 days then 1 a day as a prevention.
The sachets mentioned by Litterpicker are basically baking soda, so just dissolve a teaspoon in water and drink.

I know from past experience that you should seek medical help with this. Good luck.

Allsorts, what BlueBelle says is right. You must phone your doctors today and do not play it down.
It could turn very nasty.
Please phone the GP today.
Good luck

Please see your GP ASAP.
A relative was recently extremely ill with sepsis from a UTI that wasn’t treated quickly enough - he’s still very weak and has been told it will take quite some time to recover completely. Sepsis can be a very swift killer.

I agree with Elegran. A friend had a UTI, which ended with a few days in hospital. You need to have a urine sample tested and the infection properly diagnosed. You can then be prescribed the correct antibiotic.

UTI needs to be nipped in the bud. I have a friend who developed sepsis as the infection was allowed to spread. Luckily, she survived. Antibiotics have saved many lives in the last century, so please don't reject them out of hand.

Like it or not there are times when anto-biotics are the only solution. The sooner you see your doctor and the less severe the infection when you see him, the shorter the course of antibiotics will be and possibly the dose will be lower.

RE CRANBERRY

The latest published meta-analysis including 28 trials reports a clear benefit of Cranberry products for the prevention of recurrent UTIs in women. Five TCM formulas were found to be equally or more effective than antibiotics in the treatment of UTIs. Furthermore, Rosa canina seems to have the potential to prevent UTI in women undergoing a caesarean section. ‘Acidif Plus Tablets’ as well as ‘Canephron’ seem to be promising candidates for treating women with uncomplicated recurrent UTI.

I suppose the key here may be uncomplicated.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213422022000592

There are no stated links with industry in the disclosures.

BTW, I'm not in favour of Cranberry over the GP.
Just saying.

Also, a doctor once told me that drinking lemon barley water regularly is good for the urinary tract. But, again, on this occasion you need to speak to a doctor.

Go to your GP before the infection spread to your Kidneys.

I wish they had added "Dog rose" after the " Rosa canina " Not everyone knows the botanical name.

The Canephron mentioned in the same excerpt seems, according to a Google search, to mostly be for an adjunct treatment - (additional to main treatment). It has no connection to the rosa canina, in spite of sounding like it.
The active substances are:
1 coated tablet contains:
Common centaury powder 18 mg
Lovage root powder 18 mg
Rosemary leaf powder 18 mg
The other ingredients are: calcium carbonate, dextrin, spray-dried glucose syrup, lactose monohydrate, magnesium stearate, corn starch, montan glycol wax, povidone (25, 30), virgin castor oil, sucrose (saccharose), shellac, colloidal anhydrous silica, talc, dyes: iron (III) oxide (E172), riboflavin (E101), titanium dioxide (E171)

The excerpt jumps from cranberry to rosa canina. They are not the same thing. I assume the whole article is about various treatments for UTIs

I always thought Cranberry prevented uti but was of no help if you had developed the infection
Bicarbonate type drinks treat the symptoms but not the cause or the infection
The correct Antibiotic for the correct duration treats the infection

Why are you so anti the anti-biotics?
As long as you finish the course, and go back for another prescription if the first lot doesn't clear up the infection completely, you will not do any damage to yourself or cause the bug to develop immunity.
Please don't hesitate any longer and put yourself at risk of becoming really ill.

Elegran if you follow the link you can read the paper.
It's a review of other papers so different questions asked by different researchers.
The reason I linked to this study (there are loads by the way) is that it's recent.

Thank you all. One thing that helped has been carrot soup and drinking no coffee or tea just water, it is going slowly but surely, I might still need antibiotics but like the body to sort things out if it can, if not it’s modern medicine.