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Cossy Wed 19-Aug-26 08:58:48

I’ve just read about yet another drowning tragedy on our beaches.

2 adults and a teenager dead, the younger child in ICU. All from the same family.

We, as a country, don’t appear to be adjusting in any way to our ever changing, hotter weather.

My question/suggestion is now, with more and more people potentially seeking to cool down in our sea, should we follow the example of other countries and set up life guards during the summers, stationed on our beaches, and put up notices in areas where there are strong riptides.

I grew up on the coast, as did my parents and our children. We all swam in open waters. But, far more importantly and crucial to safety, we learned at an early age about tides, how dangerous water is and how to swim.

It saddens me how many needless deaths we’ve had this year already and would love to hear others ideas about water safety.

I appreciate this would cost money and would have to be funded locally via councils.

The lifeguards, however, like our wonderful lifeboat services could be volunteers, the signage would be a one of cost, and the lifeguard training and perhaps small lifeguard huts would have to be funded.

Any ideas?

Gran22boys Wed 19-Aug-26 09:04:49

Where I live there are lifeguards on most beaches.
Part of the problem is people who don’t live near the coast and coming here on holiday don’t realise the dangers the sea can pose.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:05:27

Not far from us.

The sea has been very rough of late, and where they were (I think) is an area of dodgy currents as it is the entrance to the port.

The biggest issue I think, and we saw it all the time when we lived in Cornwall, is people who are unfamiliar with the sea, take risk that no one else who are familiar would ever take.

Living near the sea all my life has given me great respect for its power and often unpredictability.

Oreo Wed 19-Aug-26 09:05:57

Places I have been to do have signage and some not all have lifeguards patrolling.
I don’t know if all the deaths in the sea were from the same reasons or even if they could all swim. Certainly all the major beach destinations should have lifeguards in Summer paid for by the local Council.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:13:13

We are an island, I am always amazed that some people who go into the sea have little knowledge of tides and rips.

Every loss is tragic and sad, and on the whole preventable.

Do people take notice of the warning flag system here in the UK, do some people even know of it’s existence?

tanith Wed 19-Aug-26 09:14:45

It seems people are just not aware how there different issues on some of our beaches they are not all flat with gradual sloping entry to the water Brighton for instance is very dangerous if you aren’t aware. I don’t think there are signs about steep steps in the shingle into the water maybe there should be and as others say more life guards too.

fancythat Wed 19-Aug-26 09:15:14

^My question/suggestion is now, with more and more people potentially seeking to cool down in our sea, should we follow the example of other countries and set up life guards during the summers, stationed on our beaches, and put up notices in areas where there are strong riptides.
^

Has that not been done for decades?

Fallingstar Wed 19-Aug-26 09:22:41

Such a tragedy at Shoreham, my thoughts are with the loved ones 💐
Not sure how high the death toll is due to people drowning in open water this year but is bound to be way too high, indeed any death is too many.
I agree that with hotter summers and more people seeking respite in open waters we need a plan in place to deal with this. Lifeguards are a good idea and plenty of warnings as well as the red flag flown in clear view when the sea is not safe. But some deaths occur in rivers etc., so I think a national campaign aimed at informing people of the dangers would be good with clear signage near all waterways. Also I think schools could play a part in pushing this campaign, especially if the have a pool.

nanna8 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:42:28

At least you don’t have those wretched sharks which seem to be coming in closer to shores these days. Many of our beaches have lifeguards but a lot still swim and surf outside the flags - possibly because it can get unpleasantly crowded. As others say, many drownings seem to be tourists from overseas who can’t swim very well and have never experienced the tides and the possible rips.

Greyduster Wed 19-Aug-26 09:50:21

When we were in Northern Ireland last year, there were many beautiful, remote stretches of beach that had signs up saying there was no lifeguard service and warning of rip tides and currents, but there were still people swimming and surfing there. Some just can’t resist it. It was the same on a very large upland reservoir that I used to fish. Ostensibly a flat calm expanse of water. Very inviting, but bitterly cold even in summer, and full of hidden underwater structures, strong currents and soft muddy banks that your legs could disappear into. Signs to that effect did not stop people from stripping off and dashing in as if it was a local swimming pool and the water bailiffs who used to patrol in boats could not be everywhere at once🤷‍♀️!

Lathyrus3 Wed 19-Aug-26 10:02:41

Many years ago I lived by the sea where the beach sloped into the sea and was safe on an incomng tide but not on the ebb.

Posts and red flags were placed close to the tide line.

There were always people in the sea who had come for the day and were frustrated by the timing of the tide so disregarded the very prominent notices.

Volunteer lifeguards? Its easy to assume that a lifeguard will be fine. They are in just as much danger from the sea as the swimmer in difficulty. Just a bit stronger and more familiar with conditions.

That would be a big ask for a volunteer.

Aveline Wed 19-Aug-26 10:06:41

We have such a large coastline round the UK that it would be impossible to staff every cove, inlet and even small beach where people might fancy a swim. Maybe a nationwide unavoidable TV warning system repeated over the summer would be more practical?

MiniMoon Wed 19-Aug-26 10:19:44

My daughter and I were just discussing this yesterday. She was advocating the return of Public Information Films. She remembers the one about Lonely Water which was scary. They were discontinued in 2011, she thinks, and I agree, that they should be brought back.

Graphite Wed 19-Aug-26 10:43:24

An extract from the annual report of the RNLI:

rnli.org/about-us/how-the-rnli-is-run/annual-reports

Pages 6 & 7 have the numbers of interventions.

RNLI lifeguards delivered essential lifesaving services to beach visitors, including local communities and tourists, in 2025. Our lifeguards kept watch over millions of beachgoers, providing 206,728 hours of supervised patrols on 249 busy beaches across the UK and Channel Islands. Demand for this important service continues to grow year-on-year. Their priority is the prevention of incidents and, in 2025, they instigated more than 2.6 million preventative actions. They also responded to 17,173 incidents – aiding 36,213 people and saving a total of 117 lives. The number of people aided was a significant increase on 2024, largely due to a rise in beach mass rescues and likely driven by several snap heatwaves. More than 85% of incidents occurred during the peak summer months of June, July and August.

The RNLI is wholly dependent on voluntary donations and income comes from investments and trading activities. 90% of its income comes from donations.

cornergran Wed 19-Aug-26 10:52:20

Our beach looks benign but is far from it. Safe on an incoming tide, very dangerous from about an hour after the tide has turned. Strong currents soon take people, even the best swimmers. No lifeguards. Plenty of warning signs about mud and currents which are largely ignored. The RNLI can be very busy.

Franbern Wed 19-Aug-26 11:17:46

Our long beach has signs all along it warning people not to pass them. The sea goes out a very long way, but it leaves dangerous sinking mud. It always amazes me how many people totally disregard these danger notices and you see them with toddlers, children and dogs way past them. Many do get into serious problems and if it was not for the wonderful local RNLI would loose their lives.
Not being able to swim is only part of the problem - it far too many people's attitude that these sort of notices are put there just to inconvenience them, not to give them safety.
Perhaps those who use the RNLI services need to to be sent invoices covering the costs involved - which often includes helicopter.

Chestnut Wed 19-Aug-26 11:29:28

MiniMoon

My daughter and I were just discussing this yesterday. She was advocating the return of Public Information Films. She remembers the one about Lonely Water which was scary. They were discontinued in 2011, she thinks, and I agree, that they should be brought back.

I have often thought Public Information Films should be brought back. The dangers of everyday life are always there and many young people have probably never been taught anything.

We have water safety (sea, river and lake), fire safety, road safety, safety in the home, online safety and another one 'do you know where your child is?' because obviously a lot of parents don't.

They only need to be 2 mins long and can be squeezed in before the early evening news or Eastenders or Strictly, every single day. If they save a few lives and help people to avoid accidents and disasters then they will be well worth it.

Cossy Wed 19-Aug-26 11:34:46

Great responses and I agree with them all.

It’s heartbreaking though to read about the water related deaths, so often totally avoidable and caused through sheer ignorance, stupidity and foolhardiness.

SueDonim Wed 19-Aug-26 11:42:40

Given that some cities such as Edinburgh have introduced a Tourist Tax, perhaps seaside towns could have a similar tax, with the money raised going towards a properly funded system of lifeguards.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Aug-26 11:58:19

The RNLI provide the lifeguards.

Give to them.

My grandsons were life guards for a couple of seasons and the training is as you’d expect extensive. Each year they had to do a top up train.

petra Wed 19-Aug-26 12:27:46

www.google.com/search?q=the+Ray+chanel+and+mulbery+harbour+southend&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:465db042,vid:g3jsYHwxCjk,st:0

I don’t know how many times I’ve warned people of the dangers of walking out to see the Mulberry Harbour here in Southend.
What they don’t know is that they have walked across the Ray Channel.
They get to the wreck, have a look round then turn to get back to the beach. But what tgey don’t understand is that the Ray Chanel has fill up with water and it fills up at a very fast rate.

Cossy Wed 19-Aug-26 12:37:33

petra

www.google.com/search?q=the+Ray+chanel+and+mulbery+harbour+southend&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:465db042,vid:g3jsYHwxCjk,st:0

I don’t know how many times I’ve warned people of the dangers of walking out to see the Mulberry Harbour here in Southend.
What they don’t know is that they have walked across the Ray Channel.
They get to the wreck, have a look round then turn to get back to the beach. But what tgey don’t understand is that the Ray Chanel has fill up with water and it fills up at a very fast rate.

I’m with you too, this is my area.

As a young child, with my parents, we used to cross the ray at low tide, to swim.

Both of my parents were brought up here, all my cousins used to come with us and their parents.

Not once we did catch the ray above adult waist level as all parents checked the tide timetables daily and were fully aware of the times, tides, dangers.

But for those not being vigilant, and not local, it’s extremely easy to get cut off very quickly.

We normally followed an outgoing tide and never waited til a new incoming tide before making our way back.

We all learned to swim off our beaches.

Greyduster Wed 19-Aug-26 12:53:13

There are many beaches like the one at Southend. Brancaster in Norfolk, and Morecambe, are notorious for that. The sea goes out miles and comes back in at breakneck speed. So easy to get cut off if you don’t read the tide tables.

Tenko Wed 19-Aug-26 13:32:50

There’s an interesting article in last weekends Times about lifeguards on beaches . They featured Brighton beach and West Wittering. All the lifeguards interviewed said that people ignore warning , both signage , flags and verbal warnings. Paddler boarders came under fire . Apparently after blowing up their boards , they get arsey when told they can’t use them .
I agree with public information films and to take them into schools . I remember someone coming into my school to talk about the danger of playing on railway lines . There were lines near me where the fencing had holes and gaps and boys would get through them to play on the embankments.

Shinamae Wed 19-Aug-26 13:38:40

Just have to face the fact, some people just won’t be told…