Would student services mention my grandson was expelled?

Haven't you already asked this?

Hello. You posted this question yesterday morning and have 16 helpful replies.

You already have a thread about this. It sounds as if he has been deliberately deceitful in order to disguise his past. That is obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception - a criminal offence. A fund manager is in a position of trust with clients’ money but your grandson’s deliberate deceit, and desire to continue it, doesn’t inspire trust does it? The employer may well have reason to suspect what has happened (I have said on your other thread that the finance sector is a small world), hence the analysis. I suspect the only reason he doesn’t have a police record is because the university didn’t report him to avoid adverse publicity; I suspect from your mention of drugs on the other thread that he was dealing and that is a serious offence, hence he was sent down and not merely admonished. He really should come clean and hope his employer gives him a second chance, but in the sector he has chosen I wouldn’t be too hopeful; if he had chosen law he would be given his P45 immediately. You shouldn’t be helping him to continue with this deceit.

I was thinking similar Shep.
It must have been something bad.
Actually ‘just’ taking drugs while at university is pretty much expected

It is. The only drugs-related things that are likely to result in being sent down are dealing, or administering the date rape drug. Personally I think the university should have reported him to the police - it’s frightening to think we have people amongst us who have committed serious criminal offences but could pass dbs checks because their uni or employer chose not to report them in order to avoid publicity. It happens in law firms - if someone has their fingers in the till and is sent packing, no reference so no future in the law but hushed up.

You've already had several responses to this on a different thread, most of which rightly advise full disclosure, yet here you are again implying that your Grandson is hoping to continue the cover-up by selectively providing carefully sanitised information. You don't appear to have got the message, and sadly, neither does your Grandson.

I refer you to my replies on the other thread. Why are you asking again?

It wasn't dealing...he was taking drugs and damaged the uni property
He had previous warnings before but ignored them all till he was thrown out
Now he is sober , finished top uni degree with a first and back on track

To clarify

His employer doesn't suspect...all his peers are going through the same process
They haven't employed him yet...he applied for a job and got an offer

This is all very muddled, spread across two threads and coming in dribs and drabs. I could never advise anyone to be economical with the truth and try to provide ‘convenient’ references to deceive. There will be people amongst his peers in the finance sector who know what happened. If not today, then tomorrow. It’s a very small world and if he doesn’t tell the truth he will spend his life in fear of it all coming out. Would you want him to live like that? When you say he is now sober, do you mean clean? Was he actually an addict?

I think we have a very worried and anxious Gran here, hence the start of two threads.
You are getting overly involved, you do not seem to like the advice you were given on the 1st thread. Do not encourage his deceit. Sorry but I think he sounds untrustworthy.

I may be missing something, but as I read the 2 threads - it seems that you need to just stop worrying. What will be will be.

I'm sorry if I missed what you could do to change this...

Let it go, pray.

Did he mention the first uni on his application form or is there a gap?

In any case, he's an adult now. Let him get on with it.

He didn't mention uni 1 on his cv but not his employer wants to screen him and his peers before they formally employ him
The employer wants to know what he did between high school and now
He graduated out of uni 2 and got this job offer
He wants to know if student services will tell his employer at what happened or not
He needs to put down uni 1 and uni 2 since he spent 2 yrs at each

As others have said, he’s a grown man, it’s up to him what he does, out of your control.

What your gc has done in college is not that unusual, trust me

Why are so invested on this? Your gc is an adult and the companies have the processes to get this covered.

Hithere

What your gc has done in college is not that unusual, trust me

Why are so invested on this? Your gc is an adult and the companies have the processes to get this covered.

I’ve been to university on four different courses over the past 30 years, and I don’t know of anyone who has been expelled.
One person had to repeat a year because of plagiarism.
And the first time around there was plenty of drug taking going on

The employer will want to know why he didn’t mention uni 1 and why he went from uni 1 to uni 2. If that’s not clear from the reference from uni 1 they will ask him. He’s got himself into a mess and needs to do his best to extricate himself without further deceit (he has already deceived by failing to mention uni 1) or lying. He needs to face up to his past and the fact that his actions may have had an irreversible effect on his career. There is great competition for jobs in fund management, it’s a very stressful area and substance abuse is rife. He is very likely to be exposed to drugs. If he has already shown such difficulty in resisting them and such destructive behaviour under their influence, despite warnings, I think his potential employer will want to steer clear. I’m sorry but I don’t think this is the right career for him and in all likelihood his potential employer will decide that he’s just too much of a risk. In your position I would be trying to encourage him to look at alternative careers. Unfortunately the door of the legal profession would be firmly closed.

the company employs 100s of new grads each year...why would they ask him why he left uni 1 unless someone tips the employer off

Because it raises alarm bells.
No one would leave one university to go to another unless they had a very good reason.
It just doesn’t happen.

Anyway, just let it drop.
It’s his problem

They vet everyone. Gaps in education or employment have to be accounted for and yes, it does raise alarm bells.
It is indeed his problem to sort out. I hope he does it with integrity. You may need to explain the importance of that word to him.

I don't understand the worry - this is blown out of proportion and none of OP's business

There is no ideal employee with a clean slate

Many deal with less than amicabke divorces, have been arrested, gone to jail, has untreated mental health issues, big gaps in work employment, having been fired, laid off, etc

What a teenager did is honestly blip in the radar if the person has shown he/she has changed

Grandma talking to gc about integrity is a joke.

Op needs to step back and wonder why she is so unhealthy invested in this.