Believe Me

AGAA4

It is very difficult to prosecute rape as it's often one person's word against another. There would rarely be witnesses. Men often claim sex was consensual. Traumatised victims can't give clear accounts of what happened which clever defence lawyers pick up on. Also a victim's private life is searched through which puts them off going on with a case.
It's time that the weight of responsibility is focused on the accused and not the victim. I think most people claiming they were raped were raped and should be believed.

This wasn't a "date rape" though. Women don't get into a black cab weighing up the possibility of having sex with the driver - they want to get home safely. If they're wearing nightclub clothing, that's cos they've come from a nightclub and shouldn't signal anything at all to a black cab driver.
That's why the police not believing these women was so bad - there was no issue prosecuting him because of his position- the police just chose to believe that a black cab driver "wouldn't do this" & therefore the woman must be making it up.

It does beg the question about the awful reality shows - who the hell watches that trash?! I almost typed 💩.

Obviously the Channel is getting viewing numbers.

It sounds as though those awful reality tv shows have zero understanding of basic psychology or safeguarding
How can a threat to get someone to throw acid at you be dismissed as a throw away comment

That doesn't surprise me at all. To me it seems that a number of those reality shows treat consent in a very cavalier manner. If you listen to some of the ex contestants of the likes of Geordie Shore they are very uncomfortable with what happened on the show. They are often very young and I am not sure there appears to be much duty of care.

There is a Panorama tonight at about a TV reality series where women have reported Rape or related offences.

Sounds worth a watch related to the subject generally.

"Tonight's BBC One Panorama programme, The Dark Side of Married at First Sight, airs at 8:00 PM.

The documentary investigates the Channel 4 reality show Married at First Sight UK, featuring three women who allege sexual misconduct—including two who claim they were raped—by their former on-screen husbands"
Pressure on the women not to speak up at the time.

Iam64

Mollygo, you prettyobably know this but, it used to be thought that “flashers” posed no serious threat. In reality, it’s like any other sexual offence, when it ceases to be exciting enough, the man escalsters his behaviour

That’s exactly what the police added when asked what they would do.
The fact that women found it offensive carried as much weight or importance for some men as the behaviour of jocks in frocks does now. .

Honestly, blaming Starmer for this! This isnt party political its about taking women seriously and actually believing victims given the scale it happens day in and day out.

What about the years and years of Conservative govt through the whole period and their inaction on these really really crucial issues of misogeny.

I was sexually assaulted last October - mixed police response, better than previously but still lacking:
people not wanting to believe male X, of considerable standing in the community could possibly have done what he did:

believed his lies..

what the heck has this to do with Starmer?🙄

Carrie Johnson as a 19 year old Carrie Symons got into his cab, he nagged and wheedled her to take the spiked drink, she eventually took it but surreptitiously poured it on the carpet in the cab. He said something like "You have strong tolerance for alcohol". Then nagged her some more and she drank a small glass of spiked vodka.

He obviously bottled it with her because she kept saying her mother would be waiting for her at the door, so he took her home, where she collapsed as soon as she got in the door.

Please explain about Carrie?!

It is very difficult to prosecute rape as it's often one person's word against another. There would rarely be witnesses. Men often claim sex was consensual. Traumatised victims can't give clear accounts of what happened which clever defence lawyers pick up on. Also a victim's private life is searched through which puts them off going on with a case.
It's time that the weight of responsibility is focused on the accused and not the victim. I think most people claiming they were raped were raped and should be believed.

Mollygo, you prettyobably know this but, it used to be thought that “flashers” posed no serious threat. In reality, it’s like any other sexual offence, when it ceases to be exciting enough, the man escalsters his behaviour

I wondered why reports were not also made to the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association (especially when the police were dismissive or suggested black cab drivers are above suspicion).

The actress who plays Sarah is brilliant, she’s also excellent in Slow Horses.

Not as serious as rape, but some parents reported a flasher, exposing himself near our primary school on a route used as a short cut by parents and even just children.

The questions were all about what were they (the parents) wearing?
Were their coats fastened up?
Did they encourage him?
The best one was, Why didn’t they follow him to see where he lived?
And that was before anything more serious happened.

Magenta8
We have Andrew Tate to thank for what you saw. 🤬

WithNobsOnIt: I think some men feel there is no such thing as rape. they are entitled to have sex with any woman whenever they want.

I once saw a very disturbing item on Youtube in which some awful, cocky young man put forward the idea that the way to cut the rape figures at a stroke would be to decriminalise rape. He was perfectly serious and stated his sickening case in favour of the proposition.

What was also sickening were the large number of comments that appeared below the item that backed up and agreed with the idea.

I know most men don't think this way but the Gisele Pelicot case showed that large numbers of men are into non-consensual sex.

I am watching it as well. The women were treated dreadfully.

Only 3percent of rape allegations are prosecuted

MT62

Nannylovesshopping

Where can I watch this please?

ITV x

Thank you😀

I’m astounded that a woman would raise the issue of false allegations. They’re minuscule
Yes men rape other men as well as women and children

The key here is male sexual violence

I watched it, thought it was brilliant, the women portrayed were very brave, you really felt for them.Daniel Mays was good, came across as really creepy he was a believable character. I was reading he had to have therapy after playing that role as it had preyed on his mind.

Oops sorry about that. The above was in response to Jane43

Thanks for that full info. I thought he had pushed forward with this. However Jess Phillips on Laura Kuensberg this morning, was, in her opinion,before resigning said he wasn't acting decisively regarding online abuse.

Nannylovesshopping

Where can I watch this please?

ITV x

Just watched this whilst on holiday.
I felt compelled to watch.
Just brought it all back as was attacked in my 30s.
The questions the police asked, was I promiscuous. What colour did I like to wear (in case it attracted the guy). Just horrible.
Back to this drama.
What an amazing actor Daniel Mays is. He doesn’t look anything like Worboys but gosh he had the essence of the actual guy.
Also, I didn’t realise it was BJs now wife who was attacked. How brave was she?
They reckon he attacked hundreds of girls.
I think it’s something all young women should watch.
Great acting by the whole cast.

Harriet Wistrich has done incredible work for many years, I am in awe of her really.