The Reckoning - Savile

Agreed helterskelter and we must be more attuned to danger for others but would the young people listen I know I wouldn’t have It’s really hard to put the blame on anyone other than the sycophantics and those who heard the rumours for years and did nothing
I didn’t realise Steve Coogan started his career as an impressionist hence the brilliant portrayal He’s someone’s I ve never taken much notice of except I thought he was good in Phillomena
My biggest disappointment is that Saville didn’t live to get a punishment

As far as I am aware those hiring this man, many of whom said they felt uneasy around him, still went ahead and employed him. I don’t think these people were children. Just sick people who chased money and fame over their so called scruples. No excuses for them.

Bluebelle My comment about dazzled by fame and fortune is directed at adults who are often dazzled and lose their sense of proportion.
Adults must look out for the vulnerable whether a youngster or a vulnerable adult. And this didnt happen enough. Those who should have done didn't.

Of course I did silly and often now I think back dangerous things. Everyone does. But the world has changed dramatically since my youth,

Steve Coogan's voice and mannerisms were spot on , the editing was seamless , old footage woven with the acting made it all sickening . I was always repulsed by JS and obviously others were too but still it happened - he railroaded over everyone with his aggressive, weird dominance . Gosh , I'm not sure how to describe the creep . But well done to Steve Coogan for taking this on .

It’s so easy to say don’t be dazzled by fame trust your instincts but we are talking about young vulnerable people here
Didnt you ever do anything daft when you were young I remember going out for a few dates with a man years older than me I was 16 he was about 26 and separated I thought I was so sophisticated and it was such fun because I knew my parents would have forbidden it, he had a car !!! And was interested in me thankfully he didn’t go past a snog, but I would have if he’d tried my head was well and truly turned

I watched the first half hour - but it made me feel so uncomfortable I had to switch off, I think because Steve Coogan's depiction was so spot on and I always found Saville to be creepy

I agree with Dickens. There should be checks and balances in all areas of life political, commercial, entertainment, educational, religious and more. Trust your instincts in daily life. Question inappropriate behaviour. Don't be dazzled by fame or fortune. Keep an eye out for those who could be vulnerable. Teach our children to stand up for themselves and listen to them. If this programme initiates discussions as to how could it have happened and can it still happen, then it is an important programme.

Also it shows the nauseating tendency for high profile people to be able to bluff their way through. That is our fault and the fault of those, like the tv producers, enabling them. I don’t think this toerag should be given air time at all, good or bad.

Mollygo I think it’s hugely important, it’s a reminder, a warning, and shows just how easily it is for a young impressionable person to get pulled in and it shows how someone with a personality of being a ‘saint’ can be covering up a true sinner so that even the church was taken in by him

I while back a friend told me how when she was young her and her friend went to see a young Gary Glitter perform and afterwards they went round to the stage door to try and get his autograph she got fed up waiting and went home but the friend didn’t and then didn’t arrive home until the next morning because he had invited her to his room!!! Need I say more …. they were 16
I m glad you found the off button but that’s your preference and I think these reality dramas do serve a purpose

I still can't believe that the culture was such that so many people were 'aware' but refused to do anything.

I can’t either, but I’m grateful for the off button.

Chestnut

Mollygo

I really dislike programmes offering even more publicity about unacceptable behaviour like that of JS. What purpose does it serve?

You could ask what purpose any drama serves which covers real life horrors. What about the millions of war films and TV series covering events which we already know about.......or do we? Don't forget there are always going to be younger generations who don't know about the war, or who don't know about Jimmy Savile. They need to know.

Yes, I think we need to be reminded of just what a high profile figure can get away with if we don't have in place all the checks and balances to prevent men like him exploiting their position and popularity.

And as a reminder that when you feel uncomfortable about a person's behaviour and people say things like, "oh, he doesn't mean anything by it" or "it's just his way", to trust your instincts.

I still can't believe that the culture was such that so many people were 'aware' but refused to do anything.

Mollygo

I really dislike programmes offering even more publicity about unacceptable behaviour like that of JS. What purpose does it serve?

You could ask what purpose any drama serves which covers real life horrors. What about the millions of war films and TV series covering events which we already know about.......or do we? Don't forget there are always going to be younger generations who don't know about the war, or who don't know about Jimmy Savile. They need to know.

I think I need to watch - and it has purpose - as we all need a reminder/update on exactly how these twisted characters manage to fool the majority of people, exert power, get access to vulnerable children - for so long - without any questions or consequences.

I always thought he was sleazy as I'm sure many did - yet still, he got away with it.

I really dislike programmes offering even more publicity about unacceptable behaviour like that of JS. What purpose does it serve?

I watched it and like you primrose I am not a Coogan fan but he sounded remarkably like him and I mean remarkably
It was watchable but nothing we didn’t know already but an interesting reminder of how he had the Catholic Church wrapped around his little finger

I wouldn't want to watch it. I am fed up with distressing programmes. That's why this evening we are watching Andre Rieu - not my thing at all but at least it's cheerful.