Dialects and lazy speech - there is a difference

One person on T.V and radio speaks with my regional accent but does not use regional words and that's Melvyn Bragg though even his accent is a bit standardised. I think we should all keep our accents but what is the point of talking in dialect if most countries cannot understand you.
"Hast thou ever seen a cuddy lope ower a five-barred yat'.
Does anyone understand it may be some Scots grannies?

It's not me.
It's my "thingers"

Just to prove the point, almost all of that last bit by me is spelt wrong. (ly?)

The thing with these threads is that unless someone takes on all comers, it descends into an out and out "say whatever you want about the rough, lazy people" free-for-all."

It does actually hurt to hear yourself and those you live dismissed as not worthy.

Now there we agree!?

Oh Mogg's accent sounds absolutely ridiculous to me.
An affectation.

I don’t like JRM’s accent either. In fact I hate it as much as Stacey Dooley’s. Something without extremes of regional or upper class pronunciation will do nicely.

Ah, that's the point Gsm
People find it irritating, not some of the other reasons they use to justify their irritation.
"It could hinder chances at work"
Nope; everyone I worked with as an executive officer in the civil service spoke with the same regional speech.

Germanshepherdsmum

I might understand what’s being said MissA, it just irritates the hell out of me when I hear it from a presenter on tv or radio.

Hmmm. Regional pronunciation or arrogance and snobbery?

I know which I prefer.

I'm about 3 posts behind, here.
Slow. Sorry!

I might understand what’s being said MissA, it just irritates the hell out of me when I hear it from a presenter on tv or radio.

I suppose they all jamp on their phones to complain?

I've just marked 85 oral English exams, from schools all around the world. The variety of accents were wonderful. Chinese, Indian, American, Canadian, British, a few Scottish and even a Welsh one (a teacher for that).

As others have said, as long as they could communicate their meanings clearly, their accents were irrelevant.

volver

MissA - you're not Priti Patel are you? According to some, her way of speaking is the worst thing about her.

Billy Mackay recently gave the "Time for Reflection" 5 minute talk at the Scottish Parliament in Scots. Some people almost self combusted

Sorry - Billy Kay, not Mackay.

I have no issue with accents at all although pronouncing most words phonetically is an aid to spelling from an educational point of view. My husband is a screamer and I complain more about him moaning than I do about accents. I do like to be able to read the subtitles though and sometimes they have to be deciphered which is a bit of a pain.

Germanshepherdsmum

Can she pronounce T? As in photo, not pho’o?

It's not about not being able to. Anyone can do it. It's not a skill.

It's a regional feature of spoken language. Not a weakness or laziness. Unlike poor spelling of a word, where there are already correctly spelled examples present. Now that is laziness.

I see that snobbery is still as rife as it was in my childhood. How sad.

volver

MissA - you're not Priti Patel are you? According to some, her way of speaking is the worst thing about her.

Billy Mackay recently gave the "Time for Reflection" 5 minute talk at the Scottish Parliament in Scots. Some people almost self combusted

Busted!
I tried to pass myself off as the queen a while back, but I've been "faaand aaaat!"

In what respect does that make a difference?
Knowing.
Knowin.

If we had a chat in the phone, or you heard it on tv, its simple to know what is being said.

MissA - you're not Priti Patel are you? According to some, her way of speaking is the worst thing about her.

Billy Mackay recently gave the "Time for Reflection" 5 minute talk at the Scottish Parliament in Scots. Some people almost self combusted

But you’re not on tv or radio are you MissA?

People have trouble knowing what is meant if I say "knowin"??

Ending - ing words with - in is one that irritates me. One of our regional TV presenters does it, and as far as I am aware, this is not our local accent.

In my opinion, TV and radio presenters, as well as call-centre handlers, need to be understood by everyone all over the country, and also, not a source of irritation. If that is snobby, I am a snob. Of course, I realise that what irritates one person will be music to the ears of another( but then we have varying tastes in music).

I always think that "not in the spirit of gransnet" should include page after page of people "screaming" about linguistic differences. (Basically based around estuary English every time)

It's very unpleasant to read how people think my parents were lazy, that I am, that my daughter and grandsons are.

Aaaat the winda?