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The Refugee Camp: our desert home

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PRINTMISS Sat 30-Jul-16 09:48:25

Did anyone else watch the two episodes about this? We were really impressed by what has been done for I think, 80,000 refugees fleeing from Syria. It is not a good place to live, but better than the one from which the fled, and so much it appears to be being done by the Jordanian authorities, and various charities, that these people now have food and water and a basic roof over their heads. Their resilience is remarkable, and unbelievably, some of them want to return to their native country - but what, if anything, is left of that? 5,000 babies have been born since the camp was set up, and it continues to sprawl. Where will it all end, I wonder.

DaphneBroon Tue 02-Aug-16 12:18:23

OP. Not Post Office blush

DaphneBroon Tue 02-Aug-16 12:18:01

Nothing to do with your PO!
On which subject did anybody hear today's WH about the bus in the "jungle" offering women in the camp a bit of pampering on a Saturday. Very moving that something so apparently simple can make a world of difference to these traumatised women. Not easy listening sad

PRINTMISS Tue 02-Aug-16 08:44:06

Now we know how wars start! My opening post was an innocent one, and not intended to provoke anyone. Should have known better at my age. I shall keep quiet in future (although my friends would say that that would be very difficult for me!)

DaphneBroon Tue 02-Aug-16 07:45:29

And deleted not before time. There have been other posts from this member which have been similarly provocative offensive . Whether to rise to them or not depends on one's mood at the time .

DaphneBroon Mon 01-Aug-16 20:57:57

I don't think so jingl - it was an utterly outrageous and offensive comment.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 01-Aug-16 19:45:32

Why does everything on here have to be sanitised? Are we really such tender flowers? hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 01-Aug-16 19:43:16

Yes, but once we had started all the trouble up with Iraq, we should have had the decency to stick with it to the end. Not do as we did. Unleash the mad dogs and then leave the people to it. hmm

I don't know what gononsuch said in the (probably stupidly and unnecessarily) deleted thread, but from what * Tegan* copied and pasted, she may have had a point.

Granny2016 Mon 01-Aug-16 17:49:29

Oh dear .

DaphneBroon Mon 01-Aug-16 16:46:13

"Sick" is of course a synonym of "ill ".

Granny2016 Mon 01-Aug-16 13:17:54

Or ill.

DaphneBroon Mon 01-Aug-16 11:31:12

smile whitewave

whitewave Mon 01-Aug-16 10:59:37

Actually I think * gonon* is possibly someone on their school holidays. No one of maturity and intelligence would make those remarks.

Granny2016 Mon 01-Aug-16 10:42:35

Gononsuch, your OH sounds much nicer than his buddies!

DaphneBroon Mon 01-Aug-16 10:22:51

Then say so,gononsuch instead of repeating such an offensive remark. Or better still, keep schtum

(UKIP/BNP/MCPs still clearly alive and well in some places.)

Gononsuch Mon 01-Aug-16 09:53:54

How can anyone who justifies looking after pets, giving them a better life than all of the refugees in the camps and I mean men,women and little children, you pet keepers are something else.

Now petra.

My OH was telling me because he was disgusted at the tone of what he considers to be intelligent men.

Granny2016 Mon 01-Aug-16 00:39:36

I watched the programme tonight which showed very decent and determined people.It was quite humbling.
Many have formed their opinion based on media coverage on the flow across Europe with serious incidents being committed.We know of course that many caught up in it are the same as those in the programme.

I am not sure if the original comment is genuine or not,but on other threads there has been much reference to racism and Xenophobia,and thought this comment might set it off again.

Luckygirl Sun 31-Jul-16 21:02:36

I think she is an agent provocateur and best ignored!

petra Sun 31-Jul-16 20:42:58

I'm assuming that Gononsuch is a woman. 'She' said that the OH came home from the club and repeated that conversation. I can't imagine that a woman would get involved in that sort of conversation. Or have I got it wrong?

Granny2016 Sun 31-Jul-16 14:06:26

Our government and others blustered in and left a country in turmoil.
I don,t say 'We' as many of us did not wish for it to happen,and governments don,t speak on behalf of us all.
Many people have been left devastated,it will take them years to recover.
I have not seen the programme but am aware of the camps in Jordan.

I do not agree with Gononsuch,but he/she is entitled to voice their opinion ,as we all are.Others share the same view,which has been bolstered by poor media coverage.

harrigran Sun 31-Jul-16 12:26:39

I watched the programme and was horrified at the way in which they were tapping into the electricity supply. I think this make shift city is probably better than trying to cross Europe with little ones in tow. I felt that these are the people who will return to their own country when it is safe to do so.

PRINTMISS Sun 31-Jul-16 11:46:43

Gononsuch not in this household, whatever sort of club was that?

Tegan Sun 31-Jul-16 11:35:02

'and we spend a fortune trying to deal with the aftermath instead of sending in at the very first sign of trouble, an international army to stop any dictator or cruel government from mistreating its own people'...maybe not at 'the first sign of trouble' but isn't that what we did with Iraq and look where that got us sad.

Tegan Sun 31-Jul-16 11:32:20

That's awful sad.

Gononsuch Sun 31-Jul-16 11:26:25

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

PRINTMISS Sun 31-Jul-16 09:19:27

It was indeed a sad programme starbird, and of course we can say why did they not stay and fight - what with? Their homes have been razed, what will there be to go back to, there is nothing there. Where they are now living many of them do not work, because there is not a lot that they can do, and I fear the children will grow up in a kind of nanny state. On the surface they seem to be content, but so many of them must have a sadness in their hearts, and although they are fortunate to have what they have, and various organisations are doing their best, it cannot, surely, be allowed to become a permanence? I don't have any answers, just feel for the innocent people caught up in a war not of their making. Perhaps too, nation should stop interfering with nation, which creates another problem.