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Earthquake in Nepal

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Mishap Mon 27-Apr-15 17:24:25

This is so depressing.......

loopylou Mon 27-Apr-15 17:23:19

Bob Geldof's LiveAid put me off donating to charities other than MSF - most of the money he raised went into corrupt government officials' pockets, as directly witnessed by my relatives working as volunteers in the refugee camps - equipment and food didn't get beyond the airports and disappeared into government warehouses in Biafra etc.

Sending concrete items to some countries is no guarantee, and even if international charities are the conduit, in the more corrupt countries this isn't guaranteed either.

I've often wondered just how much financial foreign aid ever benefits the intended recipients sad

Mishap Mon 27-Apr-15 17:13:06

And part of that aid goes out as concrete items: tents, tracker dogs, body bags, food and whatever else is needed.

nigglynellie Mon 27-Apr-15 17:10:14

I agree with you Charliegirl. My cousin, until his untimely death from cancer, set up/ran a charity on an Island off southern India. I always contributed firstly directly through my cousin, but now through his successor so I know that this way any contribution will go straight to where it is needed and not end up in some despots pocket. This is the trouble with aid, you do wonder how much of what you give actually gets to the desperate people who need it so badly.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 17:01:54

Oh Charley if only it were that simple! One issue is that the impact of natural disasters is often much worse in a region where the infrastructure is poor. Many international charities do amazing ongoing infrastructure works which in the long run either mitigate the effects of or ideally even prevent some natural disasters. What is really helpful for charities is for them to have regular contributions through standing orders that they can rely on and then extra top ups for specific disasters. It really isn't enough just to wait for the disaster. As for foreign aid, I am informed frequently of all the corruption and I would expect there to be some but my understanding is that much foreign is in fact channeled through reputable charities.

tanith Mon 27-Apr-15 16:57:04

Charleygirl you hit the nail on the head , if only it could be managed that way , but I fear not.

Its unimaginable how much suffering is being endured by these very stoic and lovely people. Desperately sad and as others say many months of suffering ahead.

Galen Mon 27-Apr-15 16:51:54

Charlley
I agree with you.

Charleygirl Mon 27-Apr-15 16:30:17

My hard hat is in place and I am crouched behind the sofa but I would remove all foreign aid because a lot goes to corrupt officials. What I would do is each time that there is a disaster like this, a sizeable amount of money would be given to the relevant charities and little would be wasted. That would help with the immediate problem and afterwards I would give money to charities which would help them rebuild their lives and not a penny would go near the officials.

annodomini Mon 27-Apr-15 16:16:09

Thinking of the aid workers who have gone out to Nepal to share their expertise, taking with them supplies and search and rescue dogs, I remember a now deceased friend, a well qualified nursing sister, who was a Red Cross disaster worker with some awful tales to tell. Now, if I give a donation, I give it in her memory and in gratitude to people like her who dedicate their lives to such important humanitarian work.

Gagagran Mon 27-Apr-15 16:10:38

My DSiL's brother and his lovely Nepalese wife live in Kathmandu and we were all very worried about them but his Mum has now had word that they are both OK. Not sure about their home or her family. It really brings it home when you know someone involved.

jollyg Mon 27-Apr-15 15:47:38

It is shocking that helicopters are being used to evacuate climbers from base camp on Everest , who incidentally are extremely rich foreigners, to boost their egos, only 2 passengers per helicopter.

When lots of villages might have no survivors, and it might take days for rescue teams to investigate the fatalities, why rescue the rich.
Same happened last year when Sherpas were swept to their death and as far as I am aware no compensation has yet been paid to the families.

From the looks of it Base Camp is squalid.

Everest is a 'holy' mountain to the Bhuddists, and should be respected as such.

There is another 'holy' mountain in Tibet, Kailash, revered by both Bhuddists and Hindus, has never been climbed.

Devotees do a prostration Parikrama round the base.

Mishap Mon 27-Apr-15 15:41:25

It is good to see that we are sending significant aid out.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 15:35:48

all we can meaningfully do if we can afford it is send a donation

ninathenana Mon 27-Apr-15 15:31:06

No, cookery is definitely insignificant in comparison, nigglynellie but apart from agreeing that it is a tragedy beyond words. I don't think there is much to say.
There is no debate to be had, no quips to be made as on other threads.

RIP all those who died whatever their creed or colour.

nigglynellie Mon 27-Apr-15 15:15:15

It seems quite sad to me that this dreadful earthquake only generates 6 posts while a baking programme generates 21! Can't see that baking is important when compared to an earthquake, but perhaps I'm mistaken!!

Pittcity Sun 26-Apr-15 08:21:20

DH, who went to Kathmandu and Everest Base Camp for his 50th birthday, says that the crowded ramshackle conditions would have made everything far worse.
There is a large Ghurka community here in Colchester and they are such lovely people. My heart goes out to them - nature can be cruel.

Jomarie Sat 25-Apr-15 23:13:16

OK - I'm ready. bags are packed - passport ready! Shovel in hand, Bible clutched in the other. Or would it be more useful if I had a pen in hand and a cheque book? I know I'm being facetious but in reality what can we do apart from send money to somewhere? My grandson needs new shoes - my dil's birthday is coming up shortly and my sister is turning 70 next week and expecting a pressie worthy of the great number! My finances are limited but I can still dig!!!! My heart isn't broken - my sympathy is with them - that's all I can give - and my prayers for what they are worth.........

AshTree Sat 25-Apr-15 23:00:12

Desperately sad, my heart breaks for the struggles the survivors will face for many months to come. Yes, Mishap we must do everything we can to help them.

Mishap Sat 25-Apr-15 18:36:29

Another good reason not to cut our aid budget. There will be more problems to come with thousands homeless and the danger of disease spreading through lack of proper sanitation. We must help.

Mishap Sat 25-Apr-15 18:22:51

Sad indeed. And unimaginable to us with our comfortable lives.

loopylou Sat 25-Apr-15 15:46:18

The BBC website says nearly 1000 killed in Nepal earthquake, horrifying accounts from survivors and very few resources to cope.

It was only last night I was reading in a magazine that they hadn't experienced a major earthquake (it sits on a major fault line) for sometime, so is dreadfully ironic.

Yet another hideous loss of life, so sad.