Travel to France this Summer - new regs

U.K. as welcoming as ever? You are joking - Tell that to the young Italian girl ( and others) locked up in a detention centre, phone taken off her( so she couldn’t photo the prison like accommodation) put on the plane back after 48 hours for having the temerity to come to the U.K. to help look after her NHS doctor brothers children. She had a letter from the brother saying she would be staying with him but not good enough

Mamie

You are joking Urmstongran?
www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/14/hostile-uk-border-regime-traumatises-visitors-from-eu

Did they follow these rules though. The same happened in Spain to British people. www.gov.uk/guidance/visiting-the-uk-as-an-eu-eea-or-swiss-citizen?back=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DCan+EU+Nationals+now+just+travel+and+look+for+work+in+the+UK+without+a+Visa%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den

vegansrock

U.K. as welcoming as ever? You are joking - Tell that to the young Italian girl ( and others) locked up in a detention centre, phone taken off her( so she couldn’t photo the prison like accommodation) put on the plane back after 48 hours for having the temerity to come to the U.K. to help look after her NHS doctor brothers children. She had a letter from the brother saying she would be staying with him but not good enough

So ok for France to requested proper documentation, but not us. Anyone could have written that letter, we do not know all the story, only her version.

More here:
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/17/handcuffed-detained-denied-medicine-eu-citizens-uk-border-ordeals

That article is so laughable. Everyone of those 20 year olds is either on blood pressure medication, antibiotics, sedative pills or medication for polycystic ovaries. I feel sorry for anyone with health problems, but really?

But it wasn't like that before we joined the Common Market in 1973. We didn't have to fill in all those forms back in those days.

And I don't remember (e. g.) Americans saying anything about all this red tape for visits to France at any time in the last 40 years. When were these regulations introduced?

We used to just chuck a tent in the car and stop at any campsite. (OK we were coming from Germany but I still had a British passport).

Having to give the address you will be staying at in advance, on entering the country - sounds like entering East Germany back in the day.

My family from New Zealand visited us in France a couple of times before Brexit and the rules were definitely in place for them then.
We went along to see our friend the maire and he said, just say they are paying you for their stay, (in meals out and a good bottle of wine!). We offered to pay the tiny tourist tax, but he answered with the gallic shrug. Everyone happy.

The voice of reason Ellianne ?
Some do like to get their knickers in a twist these days.

Urmstongran

The voice of reason Ellianne ?
Some do like to get their knickers in a twist these days.

I forgot to add, we had to keep Monsieur le Maire well stocked with quality English marmalade and tins of shortbread biscuits every time we went back to the UK.

Where there's a will, there's a way!

As someone who was held in a Bulgarian police station ( before they joined the eu) for a couple of hours because of genuine mix up I know how frightening it can be.
When the problem was sorted, and I breathed a sigh of relief, and thought, no, they’re right, they want/need to know exactly who is in their country and what your doing there.

As someone who washeldin a Bulgarian police station ( before they joined the eu) for a couple of hours because of genuine mix up I know how frightening it can be.

Oh my goodness, you reminded me I was 17 and marched off a train in Halle, Germany, followed by my suitcase because of something to do with my ticket. It was all valid, bought in the UK at a travel agents and to this day I don't know what the problem was!
Solution, just buy another ticket and hop back on the next train. Tedious, but if that's what it takes.

As our recent posts show ladies - some of us are Pollyannas.
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Others are Eeyores. Always moaning.

It depends on who is on duty at the airports,too. Some are friendly and welcoming, some are officious little twerps.

Oh crikey is that how you think it comes across. The pollyanna bit I mean.

Urmstongran

As our recent posts show ladies - some of us are Pollyannas.
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Others are Eeyores. Always moaning.

A bit unfair Urmstongran a lot of us are just worried and stressed after not seeing our families since 2019.

Eeyore was depressed. Nice analogy though.

Pollyannaism from Wikipedia: referring to someone whose optimism is excessive to the point of naïveté or refusing to accept the facts of an unfortunate situation.

Sounds about right.

More of a Candide myself

Solution, just buy another ticket and hop back on the next train. Tedious, but if that's what it takes.

That's nice, if you have the money to buy another ticket.

Privileged, much?

And I see we're using Bulgaria as an example of acceptable immigration policies.

World's gone mad.

Mamie

More here:
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/17/handcuffed-detained-denied-medicine-eu-citizens-uk-border-ordeals

Now freedom of movement has ended, people from across the EU can continue to visit the UK, but those coming to work or study must meet our entry requirements and we urge them to check before travelling.

It's no good to keep blaming those who voted for Brexit. Like me and others who voted to Remain, they exercised their democratic right to vote.

As another poster keeps pointing out, it was a minority of the voting public who voted to leave the EU - yes because so many voters just could not be bothered to get themselves to the polling station or even to register for a postal vote and exercise their franchise.

The complacent, the lazy, the ones who couldn't care less although a very few may not have been able to due to circumstances beyond their control - they are the ones who, if they could have given it a thought, could have altered the result. The missing 27%.

They may not have voted Remain, of course, the result may still have been the same but we will never know.

Elleanne
The worst part was: my friend who was with me ( it was him who we had taken to the police station to register) thought it was some sort of candid camera joke!!! and was laughing.
Even when the officer said in a very aggressive tone so you think this is a joke, do you he still didn’t get it.
They physically escorted him out of the station.
He had never travelled outside the eu and had no idea how different countries can operate.

I honestly do think some people quite enjoy being doomsters. Especially if it’s in any way Brexit-related. Makes their day.

Alegrias1

^Solution, just buy another ticket and hop back on the next train. Tedious, but if that's what it takes.^

That's nice, if you have the money to buy another ticket.

Privileged, much?

Alegrias why does that wrankle you? Shall I not say what happened in future?

sodapop I appreciate how it must be for you.

MerylStreep oh that was unfortunate.

Alegrias why does that wrankle you? Shall I not say what happened in future?

You could try to understand that not everybody is in a position to say that they can just "buy another ticket". That being thrown off a train isn't just "tedious". For those that are watching - Linda on "Pursuit of Love"

Urmstongran

I honestly do think some people quite enjoy being doomsters. Especially if it’s in any way Brexit-related. Makes their day.

What a ridiculous thing to claim! But I suppose it avoids you having to face the truth.