Adult only planes

Totally ! adult only planes and hotels ….my children were not 'screamers or kickers'...can't STAND it when children just scream for the sake of it ...although I do realise it hurts their ears ( and mine ha ha ) sometimes …..I came back from the UK having had to pay £600 for an urgent flight ...only to have a plane full of screaming children, two kicking the back of my seat ….I was not happy ...just been to the UK as my brother was found dead and I was called by the Police...I had had a very hectic four days and had to fly back and forth as my late (now) husband had a terminal illness and could not be left alone (care home whilst I was away) so I had to fly every 4 or 5 weeks back and forth. I did not appreciate the screaming children ...especially paying that much ! Last week I went to Prague on a short reak...wonderful ! no children on plane, no children in hotel …..relaxing ! Flying business class on one Air France flight (not posh ...just that piece of curtain pulled and a china instead of plastic cup, and the only choice at the time !) I sat next to a Thai lady with a baby …..could not believe how well behaved and quiet it was !...in French supermarkets you can tell the English children as they are running riot and shouting and screaming ...WHY ???? the parents seem oblivious ….I now make a note of all holidays from school (did make a mistake once...after a serious op, needed some r & r so took myself off for a fortnight knowing UK schools were back ...only to find, in my lovely hotel that SCOTTISH schools were not ...two teenagers playing football on the terrace outside my ground floor room ….had to hire a care to get away ! On the other hand, I also own a holiday home and have no problem with children screaming there ...or at the school next door to me ….its just when I need peace n quiet …..

beancounter, The only time I have seen a children’s flight discounted is when they are under two and sitting on their parents lap. Otherwise if they are in a seat, they pay full price. Most parents buy seats because it’s much safer for them.

Ditto knspol. I can tolerate children finding it hard to fly. Dgd was upset flying with us when she was 2 and it was hard to settle her.
What I can’t stand is adults who are drunk when they get on the plane, carry on drinking and swear continually. Often had hen dos stag dos and rugby teams on a flight who were appalling.
Flying is something I can barely tolerate anyway, lack of leg room, boredom, not able to sleep, security......

It might be a nice idea but I don’t see how it could work, logistically. Airlines have enough problems already and Coronavirus isn’t helping. Be grateful you get to fly at all because with extinction rebellion and airlines going out of business all the time it might not be so easy in the future.

YES PLEASE. I’ve had 4 children myself, but to listen to kids screaming while their parents pay no attention whatsoever drives me mad. It actually can ruin the start of your holiday x

Yes I would pay extra for this

I thought my generation was tougher, more resilient than posts to this thread seem to suggest. Everyone seems to think that whatever they don’t like might be solved by removing the elements that offend them. Does nobody ever just put up with stuff they don’t like for a short while? I’ve seen threads where people have tolerated abuse from spouses or unkindness from children for years. How come we can’t all put up with a howling baby, or a loutish child, or a noisy drunk for a few hours?

30 years ago on a 9 hour non stop flight I took my 2 young daughters age 4 and 1, and at the end of the flight the lady behind us congratulated me on their good behaviour. I’d planned various little surprises for them and taken all sorts of little toys, crayons etc. Last year my youngest daughter took her youngest ,age 1, on holiday and used a special headband to cover her ears and prevent the awful pain babies can get on board a plane. If parents plan journeys and look after their children properly plane journeys should be better for everyone.

Great Idea!! When kicking the back of your seat and screeching for four hour flight is a nightmare! Why don't people control their children on flights, or just don't take them on there in the first place. Agree entirely!

I have had good and bad experiences with children on planes and to be honest the bad experiences were down to the parents ignoring them.

The worst for me was when for some reason I was seated in the middle of a large family. The children started fighting as soon as they boarded, were running up and down the aisle and at one point those sat in front of me threw food across me to those sat behind me. It was at that point I shouted and told them to sit down and behave themselves (which they did) - the parents said nothing. (To make matters worse the father of the group played the "Happy" song over and over and over and over again until his phone battery went flat!!)

Having said that I have also had some lovely "conversations" with friendly toddlers.

Yes, it can be annoying if a baby is continually crying but in most cases the parent is trying to comfort the child and you really can't expect any more than that

As others have said I would prefer that anyone showing any signs of intoxication be prevented from boarding.

Does nobody ever just put up with stuff they don’t like for a short while? I’ve seen threads where people have tolerated abuse from spouses or unkindness from children for years. How come we can’t all put up with a howling baby, or a loutish child, or a noisy drunk for a few hours?

Fascinating, isn’t it?

Especially as this is the generation known for calling younger ones “snowflakes” for not just getting on with things the way they did.

My worst flight experiences have all been at the hands of men who think they own all the space.

I don't know how common the problem is, when I have flown there has perhaps been one infant in arms crying.

Children kicking the back of seats stop when I ask them to. Yes, their parents get huffy, but it is my rear end that is being hurt.

Perhaps airlines could train their stewardesses to take charge if children are making pests of themselves? They are after all capable of dealing with difficult adults.

If we get child-free planes, can we please have drunks- free planes, as well.? Give me difficult child any day, rather than a drunk.

I can't imagine travelling without headphones. (Actually it's noisy, squealing teenagers I can do without on public transport.)

Cossybabe I quite agree with you. There is not a lot you can do with a crying baby and in that respect I feel for the adult. But children kicking seats etc etc - no way, the adult can see what they are doing so a simple do not do that again or an apology would go a long way to diffusing the situation

I dont blame the children but the parents who believe that children today should be allowed to do what they want and when they want as long as they leave mummy and daddy to stick face in their phones.

Yes please, I would pay that bit extra too! Ferries are ok I guess; it is possible to move away from unruly passengers if you're not related to them! Last year I had to endure a seven hour ferry crossing with extended family members including a very stroppy 11 year old. She was a bloody nightmare, it got so bad I pretended to feel seasick so I could escape the embarrassment!

This thread has reminded me of, and reinforced, my decision not to fly again! I don't like rowdy or disruptive passengers, no matter what their age is.

I also don't go to the cinema anymore, due to mobile phone use and the incessant slurping and chomping throughout the film

I think I have achieved true "grumpy old woman" status . Or maybe I just don't like other people

There are some excellent earplugs and noise cancelling headphones available......

Sorry Chardy , I see you’ve mentioned this already !

gilly1952, completely agree with you! I flew back from Vancouver once having been seated next to a hugely fat young woman. I think I should have only paid for 75% of my ticket and she should have paid the rest, as her blubber spilled into 25% of my seat. I think it’s a great idea to weigh passengers and luggage together.... as for kids, no problem. I actually was moved on a flight once because the man sitting next to me stank so badly of b.o. I was almost choking. The cabin crew absolutely agreed with me and had no problem finding me a different seat.

Yup. Child free zone for me too.
Flying is scary enough without having the nightmare you endured, to deal with.

I do understand but I think young children and babies may scream or make a high pitched whining noise on flights because their ears are hurting, poor things.

They can't equalise to relieve the pressure like adults and need a bottle, a breast feed or something to suck to help them. Cabin crew should know this and should help.

It's the parents who annoy me when they ignore their children, laugh at their bad behaviour or don't bother to try to stop them crying.

Brilliant idea!! Going during term time does not help these days. At least child free sections on a plane might help.

Could we exclude the drunks as well?

I would, but don't blame the kids sometimes is the parents who give in to easily and don't control the children. But I've also been on flights and is the adults causing problems.