Deleted PMs - This is important

All messages from Old Batty around beginning of january have been deleted at users request has also happened to me,one other GN I speak to is fine.
Old Batty had mentioned something to me that I thought she later regretted and I wondered if that was the reason for the deletion.
Hope you are ok if you happen to look in OB

Perhaps that person is having a tidy up as well Greyduster - or is worried about privacy on GN now, as many of us are.

If she or he deletes their sent message themselves it will delete the message in your inbox too.

Three of my sent messages, replies to the same recipient, from last November have been deleted. Those that precede it and those that come after are still in place. I can’t imagine that the person I sent them to would have requested them to be deleted as they were quite innocuous in content, and I certainly didn’t request it. Puzzling.

MawBroon Tue 19-Feb-19 17:30:10
Absolutely.

hose pm' s could have held information I wished to keep but they have disappeared and I find this beyond alarming

Agreed, POGS

At least with an email account the deleted emails go into a 'trash can' before being finally deleted.

There is no evidence if it happening in past years
There was no evidence of it happening before the last two or three weeks.

Apologies to anyone whose messages I have deleted whose own messages have been deleted as a result due to this new 'blip'. It was done this morning after reading this thread and as a result of thinking that GN pms had been hacked.
Some pms may have contained personal or sensitive information.

Exactly Maw and don’t wish to see my pms moaning about my bad back and other woes splashed about in the Mail or Mirror ( The Times, possibly, but that’s all?)

What bothers me is that this has happened and presumably nobody thought the old dears would notice.
There is no evidence if it happening in past years (apart from * lemongrove* and jalima’s total cull and don’t get why either as again conversations I have had with them have disappeared )
So is this sloppy tech? A deliberate plan?
Either way, you may lose members. I for one am not best pleased or satisfied with the security of this haphazard system and may revert to emails in future.

I think it’s something that started happening just last year.

I'm winning!!

I've just had a pm come 3 times!!

Just WHERE are the missing messages and just WHO deleted them?

WHO read them too, more to the point?

We are owed an explanation.

Exactly what maw said. It is disturbing!

Mawbroon I totally agree with your post.

Privacy is being invaded, and may be contravening the new data protection act?

However it has happened there is a point of principle here.
Who “owns” the PMs we write or receive ?
If I get a stroppy or unwelcome PM I am at liberty to delete it from my own inbox and block the sender if I so choose.
I have no right to cause it to be deleted from her sent messages, that is her private business.
And nobody else should have the right to delete anything I have sent from my own outbox
Compare this with your emails and you will see what I mean.

This business of group PMs is just a red herring.
If I message 4 GN friends and one of them chooses to delete the message from her inbox for whatever reason that should have no effect on anybody else’s inbox or on my sent messages

Anything else is entirely unacceptable. .

Those pm' s could have held information I wished to keep but they have disappeared and I find this beyond alarming

Same here POGS

One was a confidence shared about a troublesome time. The thought of others reading, seeing and knowing my business is very disturbing.

Who has got the power to delete apart from the user?

Thank you for raising this.

I too wondered why it happened and if the people I had messaged (they in return replied - all were friendly exchanges) had somehow been offended by my views!

(I knew this not to be the case because most of my messages are jolly or in agreement with the person posting them.)

What is going on? None of the posters I have exchanges with would want to delete a record of their conversations. Why would they?

I ve never had it happen until this last few months
I can understand maybe if the poster has left GN although I think the wording is very wrong as if they ve left they haven’t asked for it to be deleted
But what about posts in the middle of a conversation that have been removed when neither poster or receiver have asked for it to be removed, and both are still active users Please explain that GN

Rachelle

Unless I am misjudging what you are saying you report as though this has ALWAYS been something that has occurred.

Until now I and I don't think other posters have been used to seeing / ever noticed eg :-

' This message has been removed at user request'

So has this wording ALWAYS been used when pm's are deleted by either party as I think you are suggesting is the cause.?

Thank you.

Blue Belle

'pogs you can look at older messages there is a small backwards or forwards arrow at the top of the messages right hand side'
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THANKS

Goog idea, Cherrytree about observing whether a given message is deleted.

I have no deleted PMs
Has everyone checked their personal email account.

When I receive PM it asks if I want view in my (personal) email or GN inbox,
I generally use my personal email and star the email so it goes into separate folder.

As far as know GN would not be able to access my private Email account only my GN inbox.

Would it be worth 'starring' a previously received email from a poster in personal email account and then asking sending poster to delete the message?

Hi have had a few messages from dragonfly deleted but random ones - no logic to it at all.

I had four messages deleted ‘at posters request’ on 14 and 15 jan I wrote to the poster saying I was so sorry had I said anything to offend you on 16th I got an answer back saying I don’t know what you mean no you haven’t offended me and I haven’t removed anything

.......except for Bluebell’s friend!

I hope that makes sense

Not really; I'd like to know why it happens.
It doesn't happen with emails.