Lords Prayer advert banned

That's strange, that the spiritualist church presumably doesn't mind being led into temptation...

sorry, just an aside.

Except - (without minimising the attacks that some christians face, like being beheaded for instance) - most atheists don't actually hate christians, they just don't wish to join them, anniebach, so you are unlikely to be persecuted for your faith.

You might be criticised for something you say or do, but not for your beliefs.

Ana I think "do not test me to the point of destruction" is one interpretation of it. Could be that the spiritualists don't go along with that? Or with the more common interpretation of deliberately putting temptation in our way.

I've always thought it meant 'don't let us be led into temptation' - perhaps that's what I was told as a child, but it works for me anyway.

I have just Googled and found this explanation, ana ( www.fpcjackson.org/resource-library/sermons/and-lead-us-not-into-temptation-but-deliver-us-from-evil )

"The word temptation is now almost universally used in a negative sense, meaning to solicit someone to do evil. That makes it difficult for us to read such passages as James 1:13, which states categorically that God does not "tempt anyone." If that is so, why pray for God not to lead us into temptation? This assumes that God does lead us into temptation on certain occasions. The confusion arises because ever since the seventeenth century, we have tended to use the word tempt in this restrictive negative sense. But the word is capable of a positive rendition in the sense of "testing". And in the Greek the same word is used of both senses. James, in the previous verse to the one just cited, uses it in this sense, the NIV and NAS translations choosing to use the word "trial" instead of "temptation" (as the older KJV did): "Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial" (Jam 1:12). "

So it means 'Don't test us'? I find that hard to believe...

Good grief Elegran, when did I say I feared persecution ?

If that's how you choose to read it Ana

Just read in the paper that over 490,000 people have now watched this advertisement on YouTube. Presumably in lots of cases to see what all the fuss was about. Personally I think it was done in an attempt to help people at a time of terrible tragedy rather than to recruit people to join the C of E.

I think the same Crafting , the church doesn't profit from it or gain from it

I thought the advert was made by the C of E so I don't see why any reference was made to other denominations of Christianity

What was the church advertising ?

I don't know, it was just called an 'advert' in the OP and I presumed it was

I saw or heard no mention of their church, nothing was said to persuade people to buy , I suppose it's called an advert because it was to be shown during the adverts break but I don't see how it can be claimed to be a P R stunt.

So it isn't to be shown and in a way I am sorry because if it helped just one person it would be worth the criticism it is receiving

Are they going to show it anywhere?

I do think that the Pope's message about the Paris attacks was very strong and robust, but that the Archbishop of Canterbury's response was very feeble - if he doubts then that's not a good message to send out, is it?

I think it was the right thing to say, millions must have said the same and it was how he felt

I doubt it can be shown where it can reach such a large number if people , I do agree it could cause problems if it had been shown but still think it may have helped some.

The Lord's Prayer commercial was to advertise a prayer website, www.justpray.uk

What a great way to reach out to people . Thank you Lillygran for the link

The Archbishop of Canterbury overcame his momentary - and very human - doubts. He said God's answer to his question, "Where are you in all this, God" was "I am there in the midst of it". He found that helpful, as would many, many Christians.

I have just looked at the websit Lillygran. Thank you for the link. Lots of prayers and comments posted by a variety of people including non believers.

I think it could be a good website for those struggling with their beliefs or who need support in difficult times.

PS. Surprised that STB hasn't posted on this thread (at least I don't think she has). Are you ok Soon?

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