God and war

People will only find out after they die!! There's no way anyone can be 100% certain till then.

Because if people are told after they die, it is too late.

I simply can't understand what all this debating about the existence of God. whether Jesus is sitting on Gods right hand, the Holy Ghost is heaven knows who, or whether Lucifer lives in hell; because, let's face it, none of knows what lies in the blue beyond, none of us in this world can ever know for certain, no one has ever come back to tell us and the only time we will know for absolute certain whether God, Jesus, the Devil, and the Holy Ghost exist is after we die, so why have an argument about something that no one can prove one way or the other?!!

I am not more upset over the killings in Paris than the killings in Africa , but I think all people are equal

Posted by Anniebach on a different thread. And as someone has rightly said, discussing religion on a different topic can get a bit much for posters.

As I have said elsewhere, Ab, and I gave relevant quotes, God instigated the killing of people in the Bible.
Just because it wasnt recorded in one of the 4 books in the BIble that you may like best, doesnt mean that it didnt happen.

Back in Bible times at least, when people persistently disobeyed God , after they had been consistently warned, the end result was not sweetness and light for those concerned.

Well I meant one time. But I apologise Alea. It was twice in my post.

And I hate, and I dont use that word lightly, hate, that people including Christians dismiss many books in the New Testament because they are written by Paul, and therefore are deemed too difficult to carry out what is written in them

That is exactly what you said.
Selective memory perhaps?

Soon, Paul had problems , I think he would have been a happier man if he had married Lydia, unless as some believe - he was gay

Sorry about your left arm.
I dont think I have ever said I hate anything on this forum before. Either on the religious forum or anywhere else on gransnet. Because I dont.
So I dont think I will worry too much about having used that word once.

soon - your post of yesterday at twenty past eight pm:
if you're going to take part, or start, religious discussions on forums you need to get used to the fact that many people are going to write things that you hate.
it's an emotive subject, I usually try to stay out of them now for that reason.
also, I think Paul , who wrote some time after JC's life, distorts his message.
ps apologies for lack of some punctuation - can't use my left arm

etheltbags1 - I think there are 3 questions in your post.

can you tell me why does god (if he exists) allow war
The old chestnut of he allows people to have free will to a large extent.

allows illness to happen
As well as free will which means we can do harm to ourselves to a certain extent, there is also the devil
{I have to say that I am not sure of my own stance myself about illness and where it comes from exactly]

Cant he guide us to live better lives and not to fight each other
I would say that he does actually, though he doesnt exactly ram it down our throats.

soon, I was not speaking of the quotes but the interpretation of the quotes, I do not google for interpretations or opinions on the bible, do so and one can read an interpretation by a JW, I respect their right to their interpretation of scripture but do not agree with them. I give my interpretation / opinion and right or wrong, they are mine . If I am troubled and have difficulties I discuss it with my priest but still make my own decisions

The link had many texts, the majority of which were not written by Paul.

durhamjen, do you believe in God?

etheltbags1, I will try to answer your question tomorrow.

I hate it when people think opinions are facts.

Soon, your link was to Corinthians.

soon to be, I may be niaive but can you tell me why does god (if he exists) allow war and illness to happen. Cant he guide us to live better lives and not to fight each other, and live healthy lives without diseases such as cancer and other horrible illnesses

The gospel of John?
The book of 1 John?

And I hate, and I dont use that word lightly, hate, that people including Christians dismiss many books in the New Testament because they are written by Paul, and therefore are deemed too difficult to carry out what is written in them.

Of course it's an opinion. It's a letter written by Saint Paul. It's his opinion.

Quotes from the New Testament are opinions and not facts. In your opinion?
Am I understanding you correctly?

And it's an opinion not a fact

www.gotquestions.org/Satan-god-world.html

It is a complicated answer.

Man rules the world hence the wars, poverty, cruelty

There is talk of `if there was a God there wouldn't be any war/famine/death etc` but perhaps we are reading it wrong.

Who rules the world? God? Some people think that the devil rules, not God and that would maybe explain a lot.

I had to google jingl.
There are many verses about God sitting on his throne, so I can only conclude that he does or will do it a lot.

There are 2 or 3 or more parts in the Bible where there is some more information if you are interested.
They are
Isaiah chpt 40, Ezekiel especially chapters 43 and 44, and psalm 11.
Hope this helps.

I am relieved by your post Ab.
I am glad you believe in God, Christ and the Holy Spirit, as do I.

jingl, still looking into your question.

soon, do you not read posts ? I said hearing the word of God , just how can you ask such a silly question, it is not possible to separate Christ from God. Do you not believe in The Holy Trinity.

I didn't post the entire passage because I do not search the internet then copy and post, I post from memory of scripture read

Your faith baffles me sorry