What do people mean by christian fundamentalist

How do you become a christian? Is that as opposed to a heathen? Atheist? gnostic?

The last one held out for as long as he/she could then, soon?

am not pm.

mcem. Just spotted your last sentence at 9.46pm.
Yes, is the quick answer. I managed it with all my children. I have boys and girls. Since the last of my children has become a christian this week, I dont really see a problem.

I only got 6. Cats named Wesley, a three piece suite, and just one about the Wesleys.

I was searching for "Wesley" Found 11 hits, all in 2011.

All sites are about money-making. Why would people bother with it all if a profit was not likely to be made. It's a business like any other. Just enjoy and don't worry about it.

I think "they" don't allow searches by a poster's forum name because it could encourage 'getting at' a particular poster. I heard that mentioned back in Geraldine's time as Editor.

I've found threads from 2011 onwards, Elegran. In fact my Wesley searches only found ancient ones...

I searched for the post I mentioned, but could not find it. There is a time limit of some kind on archived material, not that the search engine finds recent stuff either.

Elegran

This is where this site fails.

As you posted somewhere else the search function is non existent.

I am used to sites where you can access the posters posts, and see what their mindset might be, and quote.

Seems to me this is all about money making , books, and allowing non members to post.

I do still look in, but the structure of the site fails me, and I dont do smileys

Lots of intelligent posters here......... BUT

From a reply you made to a post a while ago where the name Wesley was mentioned. You said something like "Who is he?."

Pretty insulting to suggest soon has never heard of the Wesleys! . Where did you get that idea Elegran?

Elegran, of course I have heard of John Wesley and Charles Wesley. I am not sure what as given you the idea that I dont know about them.

But as with everything to do with the Bible and christianity, I will never know all of it.

Greenfinch, I did and do not mean to come across as if I am a teacher, as I am not.
I will have to look up the words gnostic and infidels.
I dont know the backgrounds of the people on here, that is true. And I also tend to forget bits, even when told.

Back later.

Soon please do not play the teacher as if we are all inferior and you are the only one with knowledge. Perhaps you are a gnostic. I do know what the texts mean that I quoted and do not need to be told by you. Remember you do not know the background of the people you reply to on here. You are entitled to your views but please do not assume that others are infidels. Remember the parable of the sheep and the goats.

I will join you, mcem My garden needs me. We are banging our heads against a brick wall here, there are none so deaf as those who don't want to hear.

I am repeatedly amazed at what soontobe does not know about the faith she professes so strongly - or even about her own branch of it. She had never heard the name of John Wesley, the founder of her own Methodist church, or his brother Charles Wesley, whose name is in her hymn-book under a very large number of the Methodist hymns she sings on Sundays - which are sung by other denominations too.

I am not nit-picking, Lilygran. You say " however it happened" but those who insist that everything was created in 6 days (not seven, of course, the seventh was a day of rest) are very specific about how it happened and how long it took. Their ears are closed to "however it happened", which is what those who study the external evidence have tried to find out. Their evidence is pretty conclusive - but not to those who think they know already.

magpie this is actually a topic which interests me but I have resisted the temptation to comment too much as I saw the thread as yet another rehash of naive and repetitive views.
However there comes a time when following a thread 'at arms length' becomes a little frustrating, so when a fellow gransnetter mentions the boring pointlessness of it I feel justified in wading in to reinforce her comment. Perfectly acceptable conduct as far as I'm concerned and not requiring your approval.
Clearly the topic under discussion is of no interest to you, but feel free to lurk until you are ready to pounce even if your contribution is at its usual poor level.
I have enjoyed the wider debate from posters with widely-differing opinions and appreciate the fact that we have well-informed and articulate contributions to balance the narrow-minded and hidebound ones.
I have now reached the stage where the tedious far outweighs the interesting so will go off and do my utmost to find something in my feeble existence to occupy my time.

I think it was Jesus who is quoted as saying turn the other cheek.
He was a Jew but preached a more compassionate version of Judaism.
So he was outlawed by stricter groups.

mcem If you are not interested in this thread why comment on it, have you nothing better to do with your time.

soontobe take no notice, obviously some people are not as charitable as you.

Me too Soutra, the broader the perspective the better. I enjoy listening to Jonathan Sacks, Justin Welby etc because they bring a fresh interpretation, which is surely what the writers of the Bible were doing.

I'm certainly not in favour of fundamentalism precisely because of its narrow-minded and somewhat blinkered belief. How for example, can you 'take an eye for an eye' yet 'turn the other cheek '?

And I'm a christian but non- religious so I have no particular axe to grind.

It's probably ok with most of us soon for you to go and be busy elsewhere. Please don't feel obliged to return and carry on from where you leave off.
I'm with jingl that it's extremely boring to rehash all of this, given that it's clear we can achieve no progress as far as enlightened discussion is concerned!!

The belief in a creator does not imply a slavish belief in a book written by people many hundreds of years ago - it does imply a sense of wonder for what is around us, and indeed for our own existence, which is shared by many of faith and of none. That is not fundamentalism, which is what soon is talking about.

jingl and Soutra - I asked what people meant by it. I knew what I meant by it, but I could see that across the baord, people are meaning two different things by it. So that is why a thread was needed, as people are talking at cross purposes.

absent. Yes Jews are still very much God's chosen people. They were then. They are now. They always will be.

I havent got time to answer any more questions. I will be back later.