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One of the reasons smoking may be decreasing in children is because of the use of vapes. The constant news items and reports I see on tv disagree with you VS that mental health issues in children aren't worse, with an increase being attributed to lock downs due to Covid.

If there is a generational parenting competition going on, it is just as likely to be because some of today's parents are of the belief that everything they do is right, and a lot if not all of how their parents parented was wrong.

From it's first existence in 1889, the Children Act has always been focused on protecting children from harm.

Oh dear lol

Well that just proves me right really doesn't it

It's not today's parents that are in competition by that comment. Common sense dictates that every generation does what they feel is right but like everything else, time and experience teaches us what was wrong and we avoid it

No it doesn't prove you right VS lol. I said if, I didn't say there is a generational parental competition going on and at least I can see that if there is, it wont be entirely one sided.

Oh ok, those are just random words that happened to formulate an opinion when placed together by accident?

Well I wouldn't have described your post 15.30 that way VS but it's your post so if you want too, that's OK with me.

Smileless2012

Well I wouldn't have described your post 15.30 that way VS but it's your post so if you want too, that's OK with me.

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There's no need to be offensive VS if you don't want to respond then don't, but don't refer to my posts as immature and of being on a level of playground interaction.

I will when I need to

It is very off-putting and makes it hard to engage when people clearly just want an argument

I'll come back if anything relevant is added to the discussion

You will what when you need too *VS?

Speak truth that makes people uncomfortable due to their own cognitive dissonance

And yet the real experts say different:

One in six children aged 5-16 are likely to have a mental health problem. This figure has gone up by 50% in the last three years. Between 2021 and 2022 alone, the proportion of older young people aged 17-19 in England with a probable mental health disorder jumped from one in six to one in four.

www.actionforchildren.org.uk/blog/is-youth-mental-health-getting-better-or-worse/#:~:text=One%20in%20six%20children%20aged,six%20to%20one%20in%20four.

I think you mean your truth VS which thankfully has no bearing on mine.

Thanks for the information and the link DL which supports what I posted earlier.

In what ways do you think current parenting is making mental health worse in children?

Personally I would say it is the impact of real world issues, not how they are parented...

Why do you believe that the generation before the one currently raising children had less negative impact on children's mental health?

I don't think there's a definitive answer. In all likelihood it's a combination of a variety of factors not just parenting but parenting in some cases is relevant.

I don't believe that my generation had a less negative impact on our children's mental health and I don't believe it had a greater one either.

Oh dear, is this descending into a re-run of yesterday?

Whatever the causes, which can be various, mental health issues are increasing. In both adults and children.

No I don't think so GSM

I agree DL and the fact that there is an increase is concerning.

The Children's Society have worked for and with children for many years. I think they know what they’re talking about.

Sad that children and young people now have so many issues though.

Smileless2012

One of the reasons smoking may be decreasing in children is because of the use of vapes. The constant news items and reports I see on tv disagree with you VS that mental health issues in children aren't worse, with an increase being attributed to lock downs due to Covid.

If there is a generational parenting competition going on, it is just as likely to be because some of today's parents are of the belief that everything they do is right, and a lot if not all of how their parents parented was wrong.

From it's first existence in 1889, the Children Act has always been focused on protecting children from harm.

It seems that child aimed vapes are having an impact:

digital.nhs.uk/news/2022/decrease-in-smoking-and-drug-use-among-school-children-but-increase-in-vaping-new-report-shows

It comes as no surprise though as they're so readily available and the flavours and packaging are going to be attractive to children.

Smileless2012

It comes as no surprise though as they're so readily available and the flavours and packaging are going to be attractive to children.

Many shops aim them at kids with the packaging and the flavours. Those disposable vapes are dumped all over the place🙄

An increase in diagnoses could be because of an increase in mental health issues. It could also mean more people are seeking help for their children now than in past generations. This makes sense because there is less stigma surrounding the idea of having a mental health condition.

There is more than just the surface layer of a statistic to consider.

I don’t think the actual incidence of mental health issues are on the rise in children, so much as parents are seeking help for their kids, not hiding them, tossing them into institutions or denying there’s a problem the way it was dealt with in previous generations. It wasn’t long ago that being deaf was considered to be a reason to institutionalize a child, or promiscuity could have a teen girl locked away. Or homosexuality.

Can’t diagnose what parents deny, hide or try to beat out of their kids.