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Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must house more migrants after leafy village revolts over 1,250 asylum seekers

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Doodledog Tue 11-Aug-26 22:45:58

Visgir1

Apparently, Piddington has no shops, cafés or pubs. Social life centres on the church and the village hall, leaving residents fearing that asylum seekers are going to be rather bored.

Oh, so it's concern for their recreation that's behind the 'revolt', but otherwise it's 'wonderful'? Maybe they could arrange beetle drives or community singing evenings in the church hall for the newcomers. It needn't be hard to make them feel welcome.

Assuming that there are at least a few grains of truth in all of this, I think a disused barracks is as good a place as any to house asylum seekers until they are processed, but also that the processing should happen quickly, and the people dispersed to other areas for long-term stay if they qualify.

My hometown used to be a small market town with historical buildings and a distinctive 'vibe'. Families with generations of children using local schools and so on. Over the past 15 years or so there have been numerous housing estates built on the outskirts, and larger old buildings converted to (usually retirement) flats. That's a different issue, as on the whole the houses are of the '4-5 bed - each with a bathroom' type, so the 'incomers' are predominantly middle class, and spend money in the town, but all the same the nature of the town has changed, and a lot of older residents don't like it. A lot of younger ones are unhappy, too, as their children are being pushed out of schools that great-grandparents attended, to make way for newcomers from outside of the area, and the preponderance of retirement flats has meant the number of older people's shops such as Seasalt/Crew Company and the like have replaced those for younger people and those on lower incomes. Local accents are heard less often than other ones, and the nature of the town is different as a result. A settled community, with all the pros and cons that go with that, is now a generic place with a lovely old centre and boxy estates on the periphery. It has lost the distinctiveness that attracted the newcomers in the first place.

People don't like change when it happens fast.

I see no reason why having a 'nice' house in a 'nice' area should mean that you have a right to be protected from the sort of changes that can just happen to those with a 'what's the word to use here?' house in a 'less nice' area; but I do understand people feeling upset by a sudden change in their environment, whether it's asylum seekers or young families taking school/surgery places and clogging up car parks with SUVs so they can live in a 'desirable' town.

It's far better to aim for change to happen more slowly. We need more homes for young people and growing families, just as we need retirement flats and places for refugees to be housed. Putting over 1000 of any of those people (older, young, families, refugees) in a small area is going to be stressful for the residents if it all happens at once and is a long-term arrangement, but that would be true in a council estate as much as in a 'nice' area, in my opinion.

MartavTaurus Tue 11-Aug-26 22:28:02

Whilst I agree that housing asylum seekers in deprived areas only adds to the difficulties in that area, housing them in more affluent areas is also inviting trouble. Remember Epping - which is very leafy and where the average house price is £650,000? There were protests and demonstrations for several months, and tension within the town certainly escalated. It wasn't at all pleasant, but I think the police did well enough to contain it.

Tuliptree Tue 11-Aug-26 22:18:30

Well surely with the resources of the church and the village hall, a whole raft of activities could be planned.

Visgir1 Tue 11-Aug-26 22:12:46

Apparently, Piddington has no shops, cafés or pubs. Social life centres on the church and the village hall, leaving residents fearing that asylum seekers are going to be rather bored.

NotSpaghetti Tue 11-Aug-26 22:04:18

"You work hard and rent a pokey flat in a working class poor area wuth no amenities etc etc etc"

Honestly!!!

Gran22boys Tue 11-Aug-26 21:58:33

Whatever angle the posts about migrants come from I always ask, and will ask again, at what point do we say enough is enough? Quite how many people can this small country absorb?

Fallingstar Tue 11-Aug-26 21:54:53

I think it would be much better if asylum seekers are not just housed in deprived areas where resentments are already pretty high due to a lack of opportunities/jobs, neither of which are linked to asylum seekers but failed government policies over many decades.
These areas should not bear the brunt of it, nor should asylum seekers.
Housing them in less deprived areas will put less of a burden on an already struggling infrastructure and integration will probably be easier without facing the growing resentments of a hostile community looking for a scapegoat.

Fallingstar Tue 11-Aug-26 21:46:02

Cossy

Btw. In my darling new grandson’s neonatal Unit, there’s barely one white face.

Consultants are black, his named nurses are Asian, midwives are also black!

Some of them probably originate from third world countries, their parents might even have been Asylum Seekers!

Thank bloody goodness they are here, every hour they care for our darling Henry is a gift to us and his parents! 💙

Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Cossy Tue 11-Aug-26 21:16:14

Btw. In my darling new grandson’s neonatal Unit, there’s barely one white face.

Consultants are black, his named nurses are Asian, midwives are also black!

Some of them probably originate from third world countries, their parents might even have been Asylum Seekers!

Thank bloody goodness they are here, every hour they care for our darling Henry is a gift to us and his parents! 💙

JenniRen Tue 11-Aug-26 21:14:55

Jaxjacky

Piddington, sorry…

Xpost, sorry.

JenniRen Tue 11-Aug-26 21:14:32

Jaxjacky

It’s a mothballed MOD barracks, Paddington residents have voted to secede themselves from the UK in protest.

It's Piddington, Oxfordshire, population 400.

Paddington, Westminster could probably absorb 1,250 extra people with a population of 200,000.

Jaxjacky Tue 11-Aug-26 21:12:55

Piddington, sorry…

Cossy Tue 11-Aug-26 21:12:21

Actually, having read your last para again Sunshinegirls I think it’s pretty ignorant and quite disgusting!

Cossy Tue 11-Aug-26 21:10:49

Perhaps, rather than denigrate other human beings, you might like to actually research some of their stories and backgrounds.

I’m fully aware that there are some people who appear to genuinely believe every single person seeking asylum is a murderous, rapist, waiting to jump out on us poor unsuspecting women and that they are all economic migrants, who have nothing better to do than jump in a dangerous boat and make a perilous crossing across the channel, and after all, what’s wrong with living in Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia etc., shame on these utter charlatans, and now they want invade our leafy quiet countrysides.

InRainbows Tue 11-Aug-26 21:10:32

I think most people work hard. I don't think that working hard is limited to those who can afford a nice house in a nice area.

Cossy Tue 11-Aug-26 21:03:26

Tuliptree

You work hard and buy a nice house in a working class poorer area etc etc etc

👏👏👏👏👏👏

Jaxjacky Tue 11-Aug-26 21:01:39

It’s a mothballed MOD barracks, Paddington residents have voted to secede themselves from the UK in protest.

Wyllow3 Tue 11-Aug-26 20:53:48

The better off revolt while others pay the tab? I'm assuming it must be an old Baracks or something. without more information how can we comment?

Good for AB.

Never mind all those gross assumptions 🙄

Locally we have sort of large group homes in old large houses. It does seem better that way. It cant be in the very poshest areas of a city as in cost of renting an old house but there is one not to far away.

Tuliptree Tue 11-Aug-26 20:50:29

Well looking online the words wealthy, more affluent and middle class seem to be being used interchangeably. Exactly the level of accuracy and detail we have come to expect in the thoughtful considered discussions that are held about migrants.

Doodledog Tue 11-Aug-26 20:38:22

Where is this leafy village in a wealthy area that has room for 1250 new people and residents organising a revolt?

I'd like to see the source before I can even start to wonder about what I think. I'm not sure I'd see it as 'wonderful', but I'm not sure that people in poor areas should have so many people in their areas either. Hostels aren't the best idea, IMO - better that people are housed in smaller groups over a wide range of areas.

Tuliptree Tue 11-Aug-26 20:25:44

You work hard and buy a nice house in a working class poorer area etc etc etc

Sunshinegirls Tue 11-Aug-26 20:17:02

How wonderful you work hard and buy a nice house in a nice area and Andy Burnham PM wants to put foreign men we know nothing about who come from third world countries in the house next door to you and your family and the final straw is they don't have to pay a penny it's all free for them, no wonder they are rushing to board the Mega Boats bringing in 230 men a time here. Ain't life grand well it is for them, utopia.