Trans person former Labour candidate Heather Herbert has been charged for disgusting comments about Ann Widdecombe

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Primrose53

Wyllow3

Stop trying to pin everything on the Labour Party or lefties, Primrose. She was only a candidate.

Jamie (now Katie) Wallis was the first openly transgender Member of Parliament.
Wallis served as the Conservative MP for Bridgend in Wales from 2019 to 2024.

*Its all about how you treat people - ie with decency, honesty and respect that matters, not your gender issue*

See the thread title. I said he/she was a candidate.

Why did you forget to mention that the Labour candidacy was in the past, and this person was now a Green Party member and had stood for them in the most recent council elections?

Read the title. I clearly said FORMER.

Oreo

I should have added, when it comes to trans matters.

I agree that people should have the right to be whoever they wish to be and present themselves to the world in whichever way they choose to.

But when an ideology has that much power that people are afraid to speak out against a person... That is something of a problem.

I imagine the staff at this particular university are in a real stress in how to deal with this one. Good luck with that.

Why did you forget to mention that the Labour candidacy was in the past, and this person was now a Green Party member and had stood for them in the most recent council elections ?
I agree, rather more relevant , the prominence of trans women in the Scottish parliamentary Green Party has been very much in the headlines.

I can’t imagine how you have missed them!

I am with Wyllow
I haven't read the awful comments. I can guess.

It's a dreadful shame that people with influence can say and do awful things whatever their sexual/sexual orientation/gender/ age -whatever.

I have a couple of trans friends but I forget that about them. I just know that they are kind and generous people.
Although I sometimes remember that one "female" was an engineer so gives me advice on machinery 😂

I should have added, when it comes to trans matters.

Millie22

I wonder what Aberdeen University think of his behaviour. It reflects badly on them too.

Universities are frightened to death of speaking out against any bad behaviours from their own staff or students.
That’s what it’s come to.🤬

Jamie, now Katie Wallis, the transgender ex Conservative MP has been given a community order for harrassing his ex wife.

I agree with Kandinsky.

I very much doubt it will be standing for election for any party again, and if it does there will be a huge outcry.

It is misleading.

Primrose53

Wyllow3

Stop trying to pin everything on the Labour Party or lefties, Primrose. She was only a candidate.

Jamie (now Katie) Wallis was the first openly transgender Member of Parliament.
Wallis served as the Conservative MP for Bridgend in Wales from 2019 to 2024.

*Its all about how you treat people - ie with decency, honesty and respect that matters, not your gender issue*

See the thread title. I said he/she was a candidate.

Why did you forget to mention that the Labour candidacy was in the past, and this person was now a Green Party member and had stood for them in the most recent council elections?

Well yes Wyllow, I think straight people do speak up when straight people carry out abominable acts or speak in abominable ways.
I think we do it all the time.

That’s what makes the silence of the ‘law-a binding, kind, completely ordinary” trans so very noticeable. As if their particular community must support each other regardless.

Unfortunately I think members of gay communities.have been drawn into different identifying with the trans movement, instead of maintaining their own distinctive identities and indeed, some, like straight communities have been threatened by trans activists for speaking up.

Everyone should be condemning this. But trans should be especially active in saying “Not me. Not in my name.”

Millie22

I wonder what Aberdeen University think of his behaviour. It reflects badly on them too.

I wondered this too when this was first brought up before the charges the University said they were investigating/ holding an enquiry
I always thought that if was the case the person involved was automatically suspended from their job but the University didn’t make that clear

Ilovecheese

I think the laws about free speech are a bit different in Scotland.

Indeed. Here in Scotland we have the Hate Crime and Public Order (2021) Act, which includes offences of 'stirring up hatred' and that does include posts on social media.

I wonder what Aberdeen University think of his behaviour. It reflects badly on them too.

I think the laws about free speech are a bit different in Scotland.

They are all men. If you have a movement that ignores consent and boundaries, it is not surprising when it attracts men who are unpleasant.

This person, who calls himself Heather, is a violent man. It's annoying that he is pretending to be a woman. Testosterone fuelled by the sound of him.
This is also insulting to transwomen who would never behave in this vile way.

Mollygo

This sick man.
I’m at a loss to understand, how someone who is known to be a liar in one field, is elected to Parliament, regardless of what party they represent.
Is it now acceptable that lying is OK?
Does that apply in all situations?

They were not elected to parliament. They were a candidate. As I uncovered above, the only trans person else ted to parliament was a Conservative Party MP 2019-2024 and as far as I can find out was accepted and behaved fine.

Wyllow3

Stop trying to pin everything on the Labour Party or lefties, Primrose. She was only a candidate.

Jamie (now Katie) Wallis was the first openly transgender Member of Parliament.
Wallis served as the Conservative MP for Bridgend in Wales from 2019 to 2024.

*Its all about how you treat people - ie with decency, honesty and respect that matters, not your gender issue*

See the thread title. I said he/she was a candidate.

sorry, replying to Lathyrus3 insisting trans should have to turn out and speak up .

I dont entirely agree with that. If someone is a formal spokesperson for trans people, then yes, they should,

but I wouldn't assume that - for example if a straight man or woman does something equally bad who is not trans,

then we straight or gay people all have to pile out and speak up, if you get my drift?

Not everyone is required to face the glare of publicity, nor able to.

When I read what this person had written my first thought was it’s obviously a man who wrote it. I can’t imagine any real woman wishing that another had been chained to a bed and died in agony. These individuals may call themselves women but they’re men, with men’s misogyny ingrained in them.

This sick man.
I’m at a loss to understand, how someone who is known to be a liar in one field, is elected to Parliament, regardless of what party they represent.
Is it now acceptable that lying is OK?
Does that apply in all situations?