Clacton by-election

Politico poll showing people firmly believe Farage’s decision to call this bye election is “a silly political move”.

Recent Ipsos poll shows Count Bin Face has 60% lead over Farage.

Waiting with real interest.

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I am still wondering what he meant last week when he said:

I have to say the last two years I've really enjoyed the job of being an MP. The people, the constituency, it's an office that I genuinely, genuinely adore.

Which bit? The bit where he:

• rarely attends the House of Commons; goes months without turning up to any debates;

• stages silly protests like sitting in the gallery with Arron Banks or walking out with other Reform MPs then Steve Reed was about to announce restriction on crypto donations;

• apart from a couple of MPs from smaller distant parties (Alliance and SNP); has the lowest voting record;

• is not a member of any committees or APPGs;

• doesn’t attend debates which should concern him e.g. Richard Burgeon’s recent debate on second jobs. He was specifically invited to attend to explain why he thinks MPs should have second jobs. He was in the House that day for PMQs;

• that he refuses to hold constituency surgeries;

• in two years he has never attended a single town meeting to discuss how the millions of public money pumped into Clacton by the current and last government is being or is to be spent.

What exactly is it that he adores about the job other than that he gets paid almost £100K a year for not doing it?

This from the Daily Mail yesterday.

removepaywalls.com/https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15970917/Reform-chiefs-paranoid-scrutiny-party-finances.html

As Clacton Cockneys might say, It’s all going a bit Pete Tong, isn’t it?

Peter Jukes, Carole Cadwalladr and many other journalists have been writing for years about the Farage circle and how corrupt it all is: Cottrell, Banks, Wigmore, Candy, Jackson, Gill, Harborne et al plus of course Epstein and Bannon.

Seems even the media barons that supported them are now singing a different tune. There must come a point when it can no longer be swept under the carpet.

We can but live in hope!

I am still wondering what he meant last week when he said:

I have to say the last two years I've really enjoyed the job of being an MP. The people, the constituency, it's an office that I genuinely, genuinely adore.

Which bit? The bit where he:

• rarely attends the House of Commons; goes months without turning up to any debates;

• stages silly protests like sitting in the gallery with Arron Banks or walking out with other Reform MPs then Steve Reed was about to announce restriction on crypto donations;

• apart from a couple of MPs from smaller distant parties (Alliance and SNP); has the lowest voting record;

• is not a member of any committees or APPGs;

• doesn’t attend debates which should concern him e.g. Richard Burgeon’s recent debate on second jobs. He was specifically invited to attend to explain why he thinks MPs should have second jobs. He was in the House that day for PMQs;

• that he refuses to hold constituency surgeries;

• in two years he has never attended a single town meeting to discuss how the millions of public money pumped into Clacton by the current and last government is being or is to be spent.

What exactly is it that he adores about the job other than that he gets paid almost £100K a year for not doing it?

This from the Daily Mail yesterday.

removepaywalls.com/https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15970917/Reform-chiefs-paranoid-scrutiny-party-finances.html

As Clacton Cockneys might say, It’s all going a bit Pete Tong, isn’t it?

Peter Jukes, Carole Cadwalladr and many other journalists have been writing for years about the Farage circle and how corrupt it all is: Cottrell, Banks, Wigmore, Candy, Jackson, Gill, Harborne et al plus of course Epstein and Bannon.

Seems even the media barons that supported them are now singing a different tune. There must come a point when it can no longer be swept under the carpet.

Cossy I do not agree with Nigel Farage’s by-election charade.

He should come clean regarding all money matters and let the parliamentary process do its thing regarding dontions and gifts.

I don’t approve of the revolving doors of PM’s in any party or parliament.

I didn’t like the way AB re-appeared as an MP.

However, (only my opinion) I do think what Farage has done/is doing is far far worse.

It’s not because I don’t like Farage, I’ve made no secret of my personal feelings towards him, I’d feel this way about any MP who popped up in a constituency, hand-picked because of their deprivation and their perceived and actual attitude to both migrants and Brexit (UKIP), and then shamelessly treats them with such contempt.

Farage tried at least half a dozen times to become a UK MP, such was his desire to serve (), what does he do when elected? Full of gratitude and excitement at being finally elected, become the very best MP he possibly can, turning up regularly in both his
constituency and parliament? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Then to add insult to injury, when questioned about donations/gifts, instead of just explaining then apologising for breaking the rules, he becomes very indignant, paints himself as a victim, resigns, leaves Clacton with no MP at all and triggers an unwanted, unecessary by-election.

MaizieD

^It certainly had much the same elements as May was deposed by a clown 😂^

Oh dear, scrub that last sentence. I’m getting my elections mixed up. I was comparing the deposition of May to the possible, though highly unlikely, deposition of Farage by Binface.

Whereas GG’s original comment, to which I was responding, was about Burnham deposing Starmer

MaizieD I will try to answer your question, more to your liking…

During my time on GN, those against the Conservatives have gone on relentlessly about the revolving door of leadership.

The Conservative usurpers were all sitting MP’s.

Andy Burnham instigated a newly elected Labour MP to resign in order to instigate a by-election.

Andy Burnham stood and won and within hours challenged Keir Starmer for the Labour leadership.

Can you not see the difference 🤷‍♀️

It certainly had much the same elements as May was deposed by a clown 😂

Oh dear, scrub that last sentence. I’m getting my elections mixed up. I was comparing the deposition of May to the possible, though highly unlikely, deposition of Farage by Binface.

Whereas GG’s original comment, to which I was responding, was about Burnham deposing Starmer

Cossy

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD I am po faced regarding the current state of British politics in general.

As for Theresa May, I think she was like Keir Starmer a basically good person, without the support needed from those surrounding them.

I agree 👍👏👏👏

You might ‘agree’, Cossy but GG13’s response bears no relation to my question, which was, basically, did she consider Johnonson’s deposition of May to be a ‘circus’ too?

It certainly had much the same elements as May was deposed by a clown 😂

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD I am po faced regarding the current state of British politics in general.

As for Theresa May, I think she was like Keir Starmer a basically good person, without the support needed from those surrounding them.

I agree 👍👏👏👏

Sunshinegirls

The Labour Party's a circus but thankfully the top clown has been cast aside although he did have some good gags like ' releasing the sausages' and he gave the football supporters a new chant which caused much amusement with 'starmers a xxxxxx'. Next we have the Burnham farce he's carrying on the surrender of the Chagos Islands what a laugh and a kick in the backside for the Chagossians that will be but it will make Hermer smile. I hear he's bringing back Louise her with the red hair who does love her phones perhaps she could do a juggling act with them that will liven the place up a bit, but lets hope the stitch up comedian Rachel Reeves who loves telling a porky or two is thrown to the lions and the joker Lammy who did give us a laugh on Mastermind I still chuckle about it now aint life grand.

Each to their own!

Isn’t that the most wonderful thing about democracy and free speech.

We can all hold our own views and freely express them and/ be adult enough to respectfully agree to disagree with each one another without being rude or personal.

Even the goady posts.

You’re so right, “life is grand”, especially as we probably won’t have a GE til 2029 🤞

Have a nice day 🙂🙂

petra

J52

May I recommend Dead Ringers on Radio 4. Hilarious satire on all comers.

Have you seen this clip 😂

www.facebook.com/reel/974596498800278

😂😂😂

Oldnproud, that's the sort of thing I had in mind. To me the world seems an entirely different place pre social media. We only knew a version of things we were fed.

I wish I could go back sometimes.

The Labour Party's a circus but thankfully the top clown has been cast aside although he did have some good gags like ' releasing the sausages' and he gave the football supporters a new chant which caused much amusement with 'starmers a xxxxxx'. Next we have the Burnham farce he's carrying on the surrender of the Chagos Islands what a laugh and a kick in the backside for the Chagossians that will be but it will make Hermer smile. I hear he's bringing back Louise her with the red hair who does love her phones perhaps she could do a juggling act with them that will liven the place up a bit, but lets hope the stitch up comedian Rachel Reeves who loves telling a porky or two is thrown to the lions and the joker Lammy who did give us a laugh on Mastermind I still chuckle about it now aint life grand.

greyfur

Maybe the circus has always been in town but we just didn't have tickets.

If by that you mean that politics has always been like this, but that most of us ordinary folk weren't really privy to the extent of the shenanigans that went on amongst the 'elite' political class prior to the social media age, then you have probably hit the head! 👍

Now we hear constantly about all the dodgy goings-on, plus quite a bit that is probably total fiction and designed purely to influence us into being for or against a particular faction.

Sorry if I have misunderstood.

J52

May I recommend Dead Ringers on Radio 4. Hilarious satire on all comers.

Have you seen this clip 😂

www.facebook.com/reel/974596498800278

Maybe the circus has always been in town but we just didn't have tickets.

MaizieD I am po faced regarding the current state of British politics in general.

As for Theresa May, I think she was like Keir Starmer a basically good person, without the support needed from those surrounding them.

sorry - first sentence should read "not unusual"

I agree - its politics, and not usual, when both Mp's and chunks of a party feels the leader is out of touch enough to potentially damage a government. I know people have different POV on Starmer going, but to compare it with the circus around Farage?

When Fridays IPSOS poll came out it shows

"Britain backs Count Binface to beat Nigel Farage in Clacton by-election, poll shows
Some 33 per cent of British adults would prefer Count Binface to win, while only 21 per cent back the Reform UK leader"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/count-binface-nigel-farage-clacton-by-election-poll-b3012680.html

Farage will now be associated forever with this farce.

Then again I think Andy Burnham’s deposing of the PM is a circus , but slightly better organised and longer in planning…

I trust you felt the same way about Boris Johnson’s depositions of Theresa May.

There is no established convention which says that PMs cannot be challenged and ‘deposed’ during their term of office. If a governing party feels that its leader is losing the confidence of the nation and is destroying the public trust needed for effective governance it is at perfect liberty to ‘depose’ them and choose a substitute who they feel would be more effective. Even the great Thatcher was ‘deposed’ mid term. Was that just a ‘circus’?

The outbreak of po facedness about Count Binface is absurd. He and other ‘joke’ candidates have been a longstanding feature of elections, to the point of being almost a British institution. They are also a demonstration of our established democratic rights which allow anyone to stand for election to parliament and allow voters to choose who shall represent them.

As for for adding to the publicity around the Farage circus I suspect that he will tend to diminish it, much to Farage’s annoyance. Count Binface is news. Farage’s antics aren’t. Farage is no longer the centre of the attention he expects as his right.

GrannyGravy13

Which is why I posted Farage circus

Then again I think Andy Burnham’s deposing of the PM is a circus , but slightly better organised and longer in planning…

There I have to agree!

What a mess our politics are these days 😕

Which is why I posted Farage circus

Then again I think Andy Burnham’s deposing of the PM is a circus , but slightly better organised and longer in planning…

GrannyGravy13 22:56

I would be inclined to agree if he hadn’t stood at many other elections, making it clear he’s the comedic side of politics and raising cash for charity in the first place.

Do you not feel that it is not he, but is Farage who is making a mockery of our political system?