Clacton by-election

Deflective whataboutery re Ecotricity.

As is often the case, you need to look beyond click bait.

dalevince.com/news/green-energy/truth-about-energy-subsidies-in-britain/

The media have got the bit between their teeth regarding Farage now, and he has played his hand badly over the last few weeks. As you say FGT2, of course the people of his constituency aren’t stupid, and depending whether more revelations come to light about his dealings over the next 5 weeks until the election, and again depending on the outcome of the parliamentary investigation, they won’t be loyal to him either.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Where’s the noise?
Dale Vince donated £5 million to the Labour Party and in return received £123 million in subsidies for his energy companies.

Not a bad return on investment I’d say.

Yes I do realise his donation was to the LP and not Starmer.

Clacton residents are not daft.

It wasn’t a personal donation to one person though, was it?

Where’s the noise?
Dale Vince donated £5 million to the Labour Party and in return received £123 million in subsidies for his energy companies.

Not a bad return on investment I’d say.

Yes I do realise his donation was to the LP and not Starmer.

Clacton residents are not daft.

Farage is the Politicians politician. Tricky as a bag of monkeys. Also he must have learned a few expenses tips when he was a Euro MP.

The EU is not renowned for its transparency and honesty. Lets face it.
Not thrilled about the latest accusations against him. Perhaps he could lend some money to Prince Harry to solve his safety, body guarding problems
Farage is no worse that Politicians Expenses debacle back in day.

When Politicians were employing undeclared family members.

Remember the Daily Mail headline.

More snouts in the trough.

Also we have just been served up the despicable goings on with Mandelson financial wrongdoings.
Lack of vetting in the Epstein Affair.

I rest my case.

There is also something about the regions in the South East coastal counties of England voting right, more so than the rest of the UK. Jaywick is the most deprived electoral ward in the UK, but as a comparison, seven of the top ten deprivation areas in England are in Blackpool - which has two Labour MPs. It would be good to have more insight into why that is the case.

Cossy. Giles Watling has said he is willing to stand again so when this current charade is over and assuming Farage is eventually suspended and subject to a recall, Clacton may, once again, get an MP who gives a damn.

We know that Clacton is one of only two constituencies to ever elect an MP representing UKiP - the other was Rochester & Strood.

Douglas Carswell in Clacton defected to UkiP from the Tories but retained the seat in a by-election and subsequent GE. So were people voting for him or party? He subsequently left UkiP and served as an Independent until 2017 when May called a snap election.

His relationship with UKiP party leader Nigel Farage was full of "animosity" and "tension"; on several occasions he called for Farage to step down as party leader.(Wiki)

There’s a reason Farage bumped Tony Mack in 2024, because he thought it was the safer seat of the two and indeed Rochester and Strood went to Labour.

I believe in democracy. People can vote for whoever they chose. They can vote for a bin if they want to but what interests me is how people make those decisions.

I genuinely cannot see what Reform has to offer. It operates on a platform of division and seems to stand for everything that makes the lives of ordinary people worse. Giving them better renter's rights would make life easier. More UC to feed and cloth three children would. Enabling their older teenagers to earn a bit more would. But, no. Reform doesn't support measures like that. Put them in power and they would repeal the Renters' Rights Act, restore the two child UC cap and reduce what young people can earn. Why? So they can give a massive tax break to crypto gamblers like Harborne and Cottrell. How would helping their super rich donors get richer help the poor residents of Jaywick?

Now I’m reading that Reform activists, branch officers, and councillors in the North West have been instructed to abandon the Greater Manchester mayoral campaign for Sian Astley to assist Farage in the Clacton by-election.

As always, it’s all about him. And why is so much activism necessary to beat a bin?

So what are they going to campaign on? Which of his achievements for Clacton in the last two years can they point to and say, Look at what a great job he’s doing for you. Or will it be more nonsense about migration and net zero to a predominantly elderly white population suffering in record temperatures?

(Over 95% of the population is white and 30% are age 65 and over (compared to 18% in the rest of England)).

Vote for Count Binface.

I think the good people of Clacton knew who they voted for and why.

Like most other English seaside towns and cities, Clacton has pockets of deprivation, it also has issues around seasonal work and unemployment, however, in common with other seaside towns and cities, it has areas of wealth, some huge houses, great restaurants, good cafes, golf clubs, sailing clubs, tennis clubs.

My overall feeling is that the people living in Farage’s constituency deserve an MP who serves them properly, not a gameplaying millionaire.

Farage’s predecessor, Giles Watling, ran surgeries, he even rented a tour bus and did mobile surgeries, he attended local events, he lived locally, he knew all the areas well, he oversaw the opening of a £2.2m GP super-surgery and turned up in the HoC to vote and lobby.

I think these people deserve better.

Btw, I don’t stalk these areas or people, I have a very long standing friend, who now lives in Frinton, but previously lived in Clacton where her husband was a senior GP partner in a local surgery. I stayed and visited her both in Clacton and Frinton, and know both these areas well.

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.

I agree, I am really uncomfortable with what is basically maligning of the electorate of Tendring.

I'm sorry?

Who is maligning the electorate of Tendring? Do quote...

An who is subjecting them to a totally unnecessary by-election which, in my book, points to him cynically using them for his own ends?

We know that Jaywick is in his constituency, it is one of the poorest in England.

Graphite has posted regarding his constituency being in the top 20% of deprivation (health and education)

They have elected Conservatives and now Reform, their choice, their X on the ballot paper.

I am a uncomfortable with the veiled assertions that they do not know what they are voting for, along with posters on here assuming that they know what Tendring Electorate need and want…

I am not a Reform supporter by the way, but I wouldn’t dream of telling someone else how they should vote.

Wyllow3

Remember that claiming PIP often actually is to enable people with disabilities to work, the 8% is not ‘unemployed’

Exactly my point earlier. But FGT and others like to be controversial!

Graphite

Let me turn the question around. What political answers have the people of Clacton found so far since having Farage as their MP for two years? What single thing has he done in two years to improve the lives of the people of Clacton?

There’s little that an MP from a minor party can do to influence national policy but anything this current government has done to improve the lives of ordinary people he (if he can be bothered to turn up) and his party members have voted against.

It voted against the Labour bill to scrap the two child cap on universal credit - other than Braverman and Jenrick who walked through the wrong lobby door and mistakenly supported the government.

Pledged to repeal the Renters' Rights Act,

Proposed lowering the minimum wage for young people.

When people are moaning about young people being better off claiming benefits, how does lowering the minimum they can be they can be paid to work help?

I believe they voted in favour of scrapping the human rights act.

Cossy

BlueBelle

I rather have high taxes than misogynist racists leading my country
Binman sounds more intelligent than the beer swiller

👍👍👏👏

Ditto 👏

BlueBelle

I rather have high taxes than misogynist racists leading my country
Binman sounds more intelligent than the beer swiller

👍👍👏👏

I rather have high taxes than misogynist racists leading my country
Binman sounds more intelligent than the beer swiller

I , for one, am very much hoping that the people of Tendring do look elsewhere for political answers, as I think it is safe to say that their most recent MP had has not improved their lives in the slightest.

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.

I agree, I am really uncomfortable with what is basically maligning of the electorate of Tendring.

I'm sorry?

Who is maligning the electorate of Tendring? Do quote...

An who is subjecting them to a totally unnecessary by-election which, in my book, points to him cynically using them for his own ends?

Since being elected in July 2024, Farage has refused to hold standard face-to-face drop-in surgeries in Clacton.
He initially claimed the House of Commons Speaker’s Office advised against them for security reasons, though he later backtracked when the Speaker's office confirmed no such specific instruction existed.

While he has skipped standard physical surgeries, his spokesperson and local team have noted that constituency problems are addressed via telephone or online Zoom surgeries.

There possibly seem to be, by invitation only, Business Meeting Sessions with local business owners rather than the general public.

I'd be keen to help with the Clacton campaign if only I lived there! As it is I really hope the right candidate wins, and I'm sure he'd be an excellent local MP (I don't mean Nigel)!

Galaxy, you inform me today at 12.24 that " the working man" ( not working woman?) doesn't want to be told that " diversity is our strength".
Many working men and women are supporters of football teams which demonstrate the strength there is in diversity, so perhaps that's a little disingenuous.

Let me turn the question around. What political answers have the people of Clacton found so far since having Farage as their MP for two years? What single thing has he done in two years to improve the lives of the people of Clacton?

There’s little that an MP from a minor party can do to influence national policy but anything this current government has done to improve the lives of ordinary people he (if he can be bothered to turn up) and his party members have voted against.

It voted against the Labour bill to scrap the two child cap on universal credit - other than Braverman and Jenrick who walked through the wrong lobby door and mistakenly supported the government.

Pledged to repeal the Renters' Rights Act,

Proposed lowering the minimum wage for young people.

When people are moaning about young people being better off claiming benefits, how does lowering the minimum they can be they can be paid to work help?

Galaxy

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.

I agree, I am really uncomfortable with what is basically maligning of the electorate of Tendring.

grumppa

I am worried that the key opposition vote might be split between Count Binface and the Monster Raving Loony Party, both of which have better thought-out manifestos than Farage.

🤣 spot on.

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.