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Sympathy for Harry anyone?

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TG3465 Mon 06-Jul-26 15:57:53

Is there anyone left who has any sympathy for H&M after the recent pantomime? I’ve been in the ‘against’ camp since the birth of Archie when they deliberately misled the press and public with delayed announcements and made it clear they were doing things their way. Since then….well. I have a close friend who still thinks the sun shines out of Harry’s backside, he’s had a terrible upbringing and life, he should get an apology….I’m avoiding contact with her this week as I know she’ll have another excuse about him.

Cossy Tue 07-Jul-26 14:12:30

No real sympathy for Harry, BUT I do have empathy for anyone, public figure or not, hounded by the media.

M0nica Tue 07-Jul-26 13:55:38

Plevey08

As Monica said Harry was in the army, another institution. He did well in those settings. But as many know life outside of those settings is very different. I think he is a bit of a lost soul who wants to know that his family cares. It would be good to see his family support him. Yes there's always a risk that he will write another tell all book but that is likely to be because he feels rejected.

The Royal family did everything they could to keep him and his family in the fold It was the Sussexes who slammed the door in everybody's faces and then did the unforgivable thing in spilling all the intimate dealings of their private lives into books and tv shows.

Since then, as their monetary pulling power has gone down and those initially wanting to do business with them have pulled out because the products they offer are below an acceptable standard and they are so difficult to deal with, they have turned back to the Royal family because they may need a baleout.

Prince Harry is currently behaving like a common tease with his children as the bait in the trap. He says he and all his family will come over to the UK, then he says it depends on the security he is offered and he demands a level of security he has already been told is not available. He is offered secure accommodation at Buck House, but he won't say yes, and he won't say no, and when the offer is withdrawn he says he wants it.

If i was a member of the RF I would not meet or speak to PH unless I had a recorder recording every word that passed between us .

Sometimes the most loving family has to walk away from a beloved member because their behaviour is so damaging to everyone else and the rest of the family is suffering as a result. That is where the RF is now.

sandelf Tue 07-Jul-26 13:53:44

Read 'Spare' - imagine your son says what he says in it. Not really possible to trust again. These were not lies and exaggerations said in the heat of the moment but coldly published for gain.

stillawipp Tue 07-Jul-26 13:49:45

Harry yes, Meghan no….

NonnaW Tue 07-Jul-26 13:44:56

Calendargirl

Does anyone know where he is actually staying, now he’s in London?

The Dorchester, Claridges maybe?

I’m sure there must be a Travelodge or Premier Inn nearby smile

EllieAnne Tue 07-Jul-26 13:16:00

I m remembering a photo of lilibet which was said to be a friend s child. And all the stories about whether the bump was real.
Hard to know what to believe.
But I have no sympathy for them after that hurtful interview and the book.
As someone has said Anne was also a spare but has lived her life with dignity and is the hardest working royal. She protected her children from the press but didn’t hide them away and make a big drama out of it.

LemonJam Tue 07-Jul-26 13:09:03

Usedtobeblonde

He is so like Edward the 8th.
A spoiled sybarite who then came under the influence of a divorced woman who saw the main chance.
While I don’t believe Wallis Simpson thought she could change the Monarchy,she thought she could change other things to her advantage.
I think Meghan also thought she could bring about change and become more popular than existing members of the family.When she realised she couldn’t she threw her toys out of the pram, thinking she could do better.
I don’t believe she has.

Crikey- a lot of disparaging speculation here against a divorced woman, ie Megahn. Let's not forget that Charles is a divorced man- married to a divorced woman and conducted an affair with current wife whilst married to previous wife a nd did not tell her about his paramour at time of engagement or marriage.

Families are complicated and estrangement painful for all parties.

Calendargirl Tue 07-Jul-26 12:12:03

Does anyone know where he is actually staying, now he’s in London?

The Dorchester, Claridges maybe?

Smileless2012 Tue 07-Jul-26 11:51:43

Everything they say and do is performative.

Never showing a photo of Archie and Lillibet where their faces can be seen has made them targets of the paparazzi; it's as if
H & M are baiting them.

Can you imagine how much just one picture of those children's faces would fetch? The game they're playing appears to be back firing and more worrying could well back fire on their children too.

merlotgran Tue 07-Jul-26 11:51:16

It’s a No from me as well.

grandMattie Tue 07-Jul-26 11:40:38

Nope.

Bazza Tue 07-Jul-26 11:36:00

No absolutely none at all. I didn’t read “Spare” but enough exerpts from it to think putting such personal family things out there for the rest of the world to read utterly unforgivable, and I’m usually a soft touch and can see both sides. Well named ginger whinger.

Madgran77 Tue 07-Jul-26 10:28:48

Im not sure the photos are going to be taken in the thick of the action. Either way we cant know for sure and not really really relevant to the present situation

beachcomber76 Tue 07-Jul-26 09:46:30

None.

Silvershadow Tue 07-Jul-26 09:35:31

And yet, all the photos of him ‘in action’ show him with spotlessly clean uniform and as one ex serviceman said his weapons were not in the correct place. I don’t believe he was in the thick of it.

Madgran77 Tue 07-Jul-26 09:30:29

Silvershadow

No sympathy for him at all. It’s all done to gain maximum publicity for himself, his failing brand and to play the victim.
As for him being a war hero, as someone suggested earlier, that is an insult to true war heroes. He was in a bunker protected by others as is widely known. And has anybody ever seen him fly a helicopter? Hmmmm.

I dont think that's fair. He was not in a bunker the whole time and fully participated in the action ...jntil he was deemed too much a target thus putting his fellow servicemen at risk just for being him!

Madgran77 Tue 07-Jul-26 09:28:48

vegansrock

It’s a bit sniffy of Buckingham Palace to say there isn’t time to organise his accommodation - how many bedrooms and staff does that place have? Charles doesn’t even live there. I’m sure they have a spare bedroom and could rustle up someone to cook his breakfast.

But noone lives there anymore do they so logically they do need a bit of time to sort out the security; staffing; kitchens etc etc

Smileless2012 Tue 07-Jul-26 09:26:22

In our experience the desire to see the GC you've never known diminishes with time MarieElla and maybe it's like that for Charles now.

Silvershadow Tue 07-Jul-26 09:17:36

No sympathy for him at all. It’s all done to gain maximum publicity for himself, his failing brand and to play the victim.
As for him being a war hero, as someone suggested earlier, that is an insult to true war heroes. He was in a bunker protected by others as is widely known. And has anybody ever seen him fly a helicopter? Hmmmm.

MartavTaurus Tue 07-Jul-26 09:02:34

If my son were debating, for whatever reason, whether to come and stay with me, that's fine providing he kept me in the picture. He can change his mind as often as he likes, as long as he communicates with me.
I'm guessing that's where relations between Harry and Charles fall apart.

MarieElla Tue 07-Jul-26 08:53:00

As I said on the other thread...I'm pleased he's been refused BP after dithering as it's a good example of not letting estranged children have everything their way due to parents wanting to see their grandchildren.
Maybe Charles is not that bothered about those kids anyway, who knows?
Not all grandparents are desperate to see their grandchildren.

Mollygo Tue 07-Jul-26 07:11:33

Smileless2012

I think it's worked out rather well for Harry.

He says he's coming with his wife and children, so Charles thinks that at last he'll be able to see his GC. Having given his father something to look forward too, Harry snatches it away, using security issues as a reason when he knew what those security measures would be before making the announcement.

He's offered accommodation at Buck. Palace but manages to leave it too late to accept so he can now whinge about not being allowed to stay in his families ancestral home.

That's at lease two chapters in the next book and possibly an interview too.

Quite probably!

Calendargirl Tue 07-Jul-26 06:27:45

Syracute

Ridiculous that there two threads on the same subject.

You’re obviously following them though.

M0nica Tue 07-Jul-26 02:53:53

Actually, Prince Harry has become a rollicking frolicking BORE.

Padstow13 Tue 07-Jul-26 01:52:21

NanKate

I thought they wanted a peaceful life in the US, instead they publicise themselves at every opportunity.

I wonder if one day she will move on without Harry, I hope not for his sake.

I wonder how much of a fee the sainted Oprah threw at them to get them on her show?

What's the price for selling your family down the river?