Sympathy for Harry anyone?

July 9th to September 27th Buckingham Palace is open to the public.

Late acceptance of the invite could be seen as deliberate, as the opening dates are in the public domain year on year.

Sago I agree with you. Harry was my favourite royal for years but his constant whinging is now tedious. His wife has repeatedly lied and used the race card to try to get the upper hand. I do believe she coercively controls him and if he was treating her like she does him more would be made of it.

He had an institutionalised upbringing which in many ways will give him less coping skills, especially now he is living in America and out of the gilded cage. He probably feels like a fish out of water. I feel sorry for him and Meghan as I think she too looks vulnerable..King Charles will know this and I think he should do all he can to help them feel accepted. I think the security funding is on a case by case basis. I think Harry would be concerned about his children's safety. Surely KC could cough up some extra security money. After all he's funding his brother and he makes a huge amount of money from his Duchy's. He should set an example and and make every attempt to reset their relationship. Isn't that what life and family is about?

It’s a bit sniffy of Buckingham Palace to say there isn’t time to organise his accommodation - how many bedrooms and staff does that place have? Charles doesn’t even live there. I’m sure they have a spare bedroom and could rustle up someone to cook his breakfast.

I was pleased when Harry announced his engagement, liked Meghan for the first year, thought she would adapt easily to royal life as she had theatrical experience to help her with public appearances, but soon realised she did not like Britain or the Royal Family. Very soon she separated Harry from them both. He went with a good grace, thought he would enjoy life in Canada, surprised when they moved to America, the disgusted by the interviews and books that followed.

He has chosen the life he has now and it is not what he expected, but he is not able to admit his mistakes, refusing to accept that he cannot be a half-in half-out royal. That life has gone forever yet he is unable to forge a new path for himself, instead attempting to cause more upset in the royal family over trivialities. He simply appears as a silly but malicious boy.
No sympathy for him at all.

I don’t really care for Megan - I feel she’s been very manipulative. I remember at their engagement, Harry never got a word in at the press release. I’m not sure how I feel about Harry - I certainly think that Megan’s won him over and he’s been caught between her and his family in the UK, the Royals. I tend to think it was misguided of him to write the Spare book - but maybe it is all true, who knows?! It’s all speculation as far as I’m concerned. I haven’t read it. There is too much media interest in the Royals. They’ve become like a soap opera. Perhaps I’m being naive, but if Charles is desperate to see his grandchildren in the USA, Archie & Lillibet, why can’t he fly over there every once in a while with or without Camilla?

No sympathy whatsoever. He is a professional whinger and whiner and nearly as narcissistic as his wife.

nexus63

he did not feel he could bring her and the kids without security, why did the king not cover the cost, i have no sympathy for him and the nasty woman he married but i think it would have been nice for the children to see there grandad and cousins, how many on gransnet would give anything to see the grandchildren.....i know i would.

It wasn’t the cost it was the fact that Harry wanted armed security something even the King cannot purchase in the UK.

Armed security is at the discretion of those in charge and is based on intelligence.

he did not feel he could bring her and the kids without security, why did the king not cover the cost, i have no sympathy for him and the nasty woman he married but i think it would have been nice for the children to see there grandad and cousins, how many on gransnet would give anything to see the grandchildren.....i know i would.

Newatthis

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Well said!

Jaberwok

The only person in the RF who had a difficult, rather lonely upbringing was the then Prince Charles! Prince Philip in particular was very tough on this shy sensitive little boy who shook hands, and bowed to his mother. Gordonstone, although splendid for Andrew was the last school where Charles should have been sent, he was deeply unhappy and hated it. But for the support and love of his grandmother that boy would have had a desperately miserable time. Curiously the QM always appeared to be in Scotland during term.time?! Prince Harry did NOT have a difficult upbringing, any more than William did, parents divorce? along with many others, does not excuse bad behaviour. Sandhurst with two unaccademic A levels, only a Prince can do that, a mother who spoilt and encouraged bad behaviour, a father who did his best. Best of everything, money no object, grandparents who loved him, and whom he betrayed and now this drama! No sympathy at all for Harry. Plenty for the King who would love to see his grandchildren. What's wrong with arranging a family week at Balmoral? Plenty of security there, the estate is enormous. Princess Margaret had lots of faults, but she was never ever disloyal either to the crown or particularly her sister the Queen. No interviews, no books, no comment.

Yes. This. My sympathetic friend also spouts - lost his Mother young…all his Dad's fault because of Camilla……his Dad was never around when Harry needed him… All of which is regretful but I’m afraid that in his early forties his air of total petulance and grievance has worn thin with me now.

Definitely Not!

Well said Jaberwok

The only person in the RF who had a difficult, rather lonely upbringing was the then Prince Charles! Prince Philip in particular was very tough on this shy sensitive little boy who shook hands, and bowed to his mother. Gordonstone, although splendid for Andrew was the last school where Charles should have been sent, he was deeply unhappy and hated it. But for the support and love of his grandmother that boy would have had a desperately miserable time. Curiously the QM always appeared to be in Scotland during term.time?! Prince Harry did NOT have a difficult upbringing, any more than William did, parents divorce? along with many others, does not excuse bad behaviour. Sandhurst with two unaccademic A levels, only a Prince can do that, a mother who spoilt and encouraged bad behaviour, a father who did his best. Best of everything, money no object, grandparents who loved him, and whom he betrayed and now this drama! No sympathy at all for Harry. Plenty for the King who would love to see his grandchildren. What's wrong with arranging a family week at Balmoral? Plenty of security there, the estate is enormous. Princess Margaret had lots of faults, but she was never ever disloyal either to the crown or particularly her sister the Queen. No interviews, no books, no comment.

He married a narcissist probably because he was vulnerable.

She had done what every narcissist does, separate home from his support network.

I just hope that the family are there for home if he needs them.

I don’t read the articles I just see the headlines, it’s enough.

Bluebelle Looking slightly further than Margaret and stating the obvious, Andrew was the spare.

Charles is somewhat less saintly than William has been so far. Harry has not been anywhere near as awful as Andrew and probably never will be.

Newatthis

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Quite happy to leave them alone but since leaving the UK Harry and Meghan have courted the media. I mean Harry wrote a book that was particularly scathing and hurtful to his immediate family. If they want to be left alone they should keep to themselves and then am sure everyone would lose interest.

No, he’s made his bed, and is now finding it pretty uncomfortable.

Nothing has worked out how they planned it to.

I imagine Meghan peck, peck, pecking away at him, bringing up this, that or the other.

“This isn’t what I signed up for, H, when I married you”.

I bet Harry thinks the same, truth be told.

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Estrangement is always sad. I am aware of no evidence Harry chose to estrange himself- relationship difficulties and hurt on both sides no doubt.

I have no strong feelings either way, but I do wish that they could all keep the ins and outs of their family fall-out to themselves, and not (seemingly) deliberately air their grievances via the media - assuming that is what is happening, and that the media are not making all these headlines up.

I feel sorry for H & Ms children who had no choice in the present estrangement and so don’t get to see their father’s family. Is all very well for adult children to fall out with their families, but they shouldn’t inflict this upon their children.

GrannyGravy13

I have sympathy for any family struggling with estrangement.

He chose to estrange himself. After opting out of any royal role, not to mention slagging off his family, I don’t know why he thinks he’s entitled to official police protection.
If Charles stripped him of his princely status, I’d be the last one to object.

winterwhite

I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.

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I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.