Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

It has been said time and time again on N & P threads that we (the UK) has enough of its home grown criminals without importing more from around the globe.

foxie48

I will spell it out to you then.

The amount of crimes committed by immigrants legal or illegal seems to be disproportionate.

The Ministry for Justice conveniently does not record the ethnicity of perpetrators only the ethnicity of victims.

I have written to my MP asking why this is the case, despite a nudge I have not received a response.

I'm sorry also Oreo, not clear about what you mean.
Perhaps you are agreeing that the frequently made point about 'having to take in asylum seekers' is not relevant to the government proposal?

A British born white man did exactly the same thing a few years ago as the Somali man so what is their point in bringing this up?

Sorry FGT , I have missed the point of your 'case'.
If you have time and care to, perhaps you could elaborate?

Sago

foxie48

Primrose53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

Terrible! I was also horrified to read a French National (born in Central African Republic) has been charged yesterday with the murder of a 2 year old girl in Surrey.
Also charged with rape of child under 13 and sexual assault.

Can you explain why these posts are relevant to the topic being discussed, please?

It is perfectly obvious why.

Well it isn't obvious to me.

foxie48

Primrose53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

Terrible! I was also horrified to read a French National (born in Central African Republic) has been charged yesterday with the murder of a 2 year old girl in Surrey.
Also charged with rape of child under 13 and sexual assault.

Can you explain why these posts are relevant to the topic being discussed, please?

It is perfectly obvious why.

Primrose53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

Terrible! I was also horrified to read a French National (born in Central African Republic) has been charged yesterday with the murder of a 2 year old girl in Surrey.
Also charged with rape of child under 13 and sexual assault.

Can you explain why these posts are relevant to the topic being discussed, please?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

Terrible! I was also horrified to read a French National (born in Central African Republic) has been charged yesterday with the murder of a 2 year old girl in Surrey.
Also charged with rape of child under 13 and sexual assault.

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

That has nothing to do with this proposed Ukrainian style idea by the government, which hasn’t gone through Parliament yet .

As I said upthread, there are more ways of helping asylum seekers than offering to have them in your home.
You are not required to be an actual host.
To suggest that is the only way to do it is indeed strange.
Church organisations provide assistance and support.
If you belong to a Christian organisation you will be aware of and perhaps have supported such programmes.
Other religions have their versions of charity.
People with no belief have non denominational organisation they may wish to support.
Lots of ways to help.

Rosie51 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 spot on there.

Can I just say, the rather crude assumption that Ukrainians are " like us" and others aren't is rather wide of the mark.

I know people who assisted with the Ukrainian scheme and after the initial flurry of good will, it proved rather a challenge in some respects.

And no Rosie, you do not 'command' how I post on this Thread.

And now Posters are claiming that AI is goady.

mumofmadboys

It wouldnt matter to me whether refugees were white or black. People in need are people in need.
Someone nentioned £350 a month wouldn't cover food for a family of four. It isn't supposed to. That is supposed to be a thank you payment from the government and helps pay for extra fuel costs etc. We chose to all eat together as a family and our guests gave us so much a week towards food costs from their benefit initially and then their wages. Other households manage it differently and their guests buy their own food , cook it and eat it by themselves.
Financially we will not have benefitted. That was obviously never our intention. We had a 2 year old and a 4 year old with the first family and a few things got damaged/ broken.
We have the benefit of a big house with several bathrooms. We had 5 children of our own so were used to a houseful. We have enough money to not worry about it.
Our two experiences have been very positive and we wouldn't have missed it for the world. We hope to have long term friendships with the two families

That’s all lovely for you, but the average family in the uk can barely afford to feed its own family.
Of course if I see a homeless person, usually white British male, drunk, druggie, or just down on their luck, I always buy them something to eat.
The migrants on the other hand, in our town, Lovely clothes, head phones, phones & somewhere to live. So no I wouldn’t go up to them & offer a sandwich as think they are doing ok.

Oh please report it CatsWhiskas if you really think I've attacked you, but you're totally innocent of an attack on FGT.
Maybe that's the real reason?

Rosie51

Maremia

Accusations of 'nasty'.
Accusations of 'sarcasm'.
Could this be attempts to 'control' a Thread by 'suggesting' how Posters respond?

Thought that was to be discouraged?

Who made an accusation that CatsWhiskas' post was nasty other than me? I stand by my accusation that it was unnecessary and nasty I assume you've never travelled on a road or been in a plane, if you're so risk-averse. do you believe this as being other than a sarcastic put down?
Have the courage of your convictions Maremia and name posters or else you're just stirring the pot.

It wasn't sarcastic. It was in the context of the "one bad apple" justification.

I expect Maremia didn't name you directly because she was trying to avoid her post being deleted.

Frankly, my opinion is that your comment is a personal attack, but I'm not going to report it.

It wouldnt matter to me whether refugees were white or black. People in need are people in need.
Someone nentioned £350 a month wouldn't cover food for a family of four. It isn't supposed to. That is supposed to be a thank you payment from the government and helps pay for extra fuel costs etc. We chose to all eat together as a family and our guests gave us so much a week towards food costs from their benefit initially and then their wages. Other households manage it differently and their guests buy their own food , cook it and eat it by themselves.
Financially we will not have benefitted. That was obviously never our intention. We had a 2 year old and a 4 year old with the first family and a few things got damaged/ broken.
We have the benefit of a big house with several bathrooms. We had 5 children of our own so were used to a houseful. We have enough money to not worry about it.
Our two experiences have been very positive and we wouldn't have missed it for the world. We hope to have long term friendships with the two families

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I think that those willing to help Ukrainian families were well intentioned and some of those cases did work out but many didn’t.It would be the same for this new idea, in fact I would be surprised if it got off the ground.

I certainly find the post by DAR to be goady, the one citing AI.
Nothing remotely clever about it.

Cossy
You can’t know if Primrose or any other poster supports the right of asylum seekers to claim asylum here.I would think that most people support genuine asylum seekers.
This new initiative may work, it has in Canada apparently but it’s a big country with a lot of room for incomers.

I’m giddy but I actually meant goady!