Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

Time our own homeless, veterans & people with mental health came first. Shocking how they are overlooked & don’t say they aren’t because they are.

They are not victim enough any more.

Sago

foxie48

I will spell it out to you then.

The amount of crimes committed by immigrants legal or illegal seems to be disproportionate.

The Ministry for Justice conveniently does not record the ethnicity of perpetrators only the ethnicity of victims.

I have written to my MP asking why this is the case, despite a nudge I have not received a response.

Sago- you are factually incorrect.

Everyone arrested and brought into police custody has a custody sheet. I can assure you ethnicity is recorded for every single person. I see them frequently. Not sure where you are getting your facts from.....

I thought it was Brexit Lizzie?

LizzieDrip

Yep, foxie. And now we’re stuck with it☀️

I knew it was the immigrants’ fault!

Tut.

foxie48

You may be right LizzieDrip these people aren't trying to leave war, famine and dreadful poverty behind, they are trying to leave the burning sun behind but it's followed them.

Eyeroll

Yep, foxie. And now we’re stuck with it☀️

I knew it was the immigrants’ fault!

You may be right LizzieDrip these people aren't trying to leave war, famine and dreadful poverty behind, they are trying to leave the burning sun behind but it's followed them.

AGAA4

olderthanidlike don't put words into my mouth and Primrose isn't right. People have been and are taking in immigrants. Some of the posters on here have done so.
How do you suggest we deal with immigration?

Send the illegal , criminal and those who came on the boats straight back. That would then leave space for the ones who come genuinely and legally. I'm a mother of women and a grandmother of girls. My daughter had an illegal, homeless drug addict one masturbate in front of her and he got his ' stuff' on her but the police didn't have a clue who he was. ( and yes he was definitely an illegal). All she was doing was going to work. There's so many there's no way of knowing who's here or who isn't and what they've done before coming here. Our laws aren't adequate for dealing with them we've got enough of our own home grown criminals we don't need more. Also once they're here we can't get them deported when they break the law. We need people who will help and build society not tear it down. And it's galling to be called a racist and fascist if we dare speak out. Deal and deport those criminal ones already here before importing more.

You know what’s happened to the weather don’t you … it’s all these immigrants coming over here, bringing their weather with ‘em.

They’ve sneaked the sun past border control, in their rubber boats.

I want my country back … I want shit British summer weather again!

😜😜😜

Well that’s just it Catswhiskas, we have enough vile, creatures of our own in this country without bringing in even more vile, sexual predators, a lot with metal health.
(not saying that they are all like that) but our prisons are full to capacity as it.
Time our own homeless, veterans & people with mental health came first. Shocking how they are overlooked & don’t say they aren’t because they are.

Tuliptree

bookwormbabe

What about homeless veterans? Is there a scheme for that?

Are you volunteering to take a homeless veteran in?

There is no need to, there is a great deal of support, and housing prioritisation is afforded to British veterans already. AI Summary:

There are several schemes and dedicated pathways specifically designed to help homeless veterans or those at risk of homelessness in the UK.The most notable support services and schemes include:

Op FORTITUDE: This is the government-backed, centralised referral pathway in the UK specifically for veterans facing homelessness . Run with funding from the Armed Forces Covenant Fund, it acts as a single point of contact to help ex-service personnel find suitable housing or maintain their current home.

Veterans' Nomination Scheme (VNS): Run by the charity STOLL, this scheme helps match veterans with suitable social housing across England . It primarily works with single people and couples without children who may otherwise struggle to secure housing through standard council registers .

Charity Support & Housing: Many Armed Forces charities offer direct emergency and supported housing. Notable organisations include Alabaré , Help 4 Homeless Veterans , and SSAFA .

Priority Access to Social Housing: The government provides strict guidance ensuring local authorities exempt veterans from local connection tests and give them additional preference on social housing allocation lists.You can access these services or read more about how to apply using the following resources:

Government Advice: Check the GOV.UK Guidance on Veterans' Homelessness Support for direct contact details and online referrals.
Charity Pathways: Learn more about emergency and supported veteran housing options through Blesma's Guide to Homeless Veterans UK.Specialist
Providers: Explore dedicated temporary and long-term accommodation options on the Help 4 Homeless Veterans platform.

Primrose - your memory is not correct. It was burglars who broke in and the vicar wasn’t murdered but apart from that, spot on

olderthanidlike don't put words into my mouth and Primrose isn't right. People have been and are taking in immigrants. Some of the posters on here have done so.
How do you suggest we deal with immigration?

bookwormbabe

What about homeless veterans? Is there a scheme for that?

Are you volunteering to take a homeless veteran in?

CatsWhiskas

Primrose53

Chestnut

Be careful who you let into your home. For two years an elderly couple in Sunbury-on-Thames looked after an 16 year old Iraqi called Ahmed Hassan who had claimed to be an asylum seeker. Then aged 18 he planted a bomb on the tube train at Parsons Green in 2017. It was an act of terrorism and 30 people were injured. He was arrested at Dover on his way out of the country and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 34 years. The jury believed he was older than he said.

Claiming to be much younger is a well known ruse Chestnut. They know if they claim to be a child they will go to a nice, cozy family home and get well looked after.

Look at this vile creature who killed an aspiring Royal Marine and had also attacked his foster Mother.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21143259/foster-mum-asylum-seeker-killed-brit-attacked-her/

You could have posed numerous links to vile white British creatures.

What exactly are you trying to prove?

I am pointing out that it is very dangerous to take people in to your home who you know nothing about. It wasn’t to do with colour as you seem to suggest.

I can only remember one case of a white person turning on the person who took them in. If my memory is correct it was a Vicar who was murdered and his daughter was raped.

I am sure people mean well but I don’t think it’s worth the risk. My Mum’s neighbour is a very religious churchgoer and she took a woman in who just turned up at the village Church with a sob story. She fed her, did her washing, gave her a lovely room etc and the woman left after a week without a thank you and taking most of her host’s better clothes with her!

Years ago I had a friend of my daughter from college to stay. I didn’t know at the time she had a troubled past. She stole cash, a mobile phone and charger and believe it or not, a horse rug! My daughter was heartbroken and we were very upset because I gave her the chance to put the items back and we would say no more but she absolutely turned on me and called me every name under the sun. I contacted her parents and they said I was not to confront her!

I would never have anybody I do not know well staying in my house. Actually my Aunt in Ireland ran a B and B and she used to tell us about weird people who stayed there. No thanks!

bookwormbabe

What about homeless veterans? Is there a scheme for that?

Yes there are several schemes. And yes provision isn’t good enough. And yes our society can help both groups. And yes we have just spent around £345 m on a white elephant in the Mall.

Of course they will all be women and children, right?

What about homeless veterans? Is there a scheme for that?

Primrose53

I believe mainly from Eritrea and Sudan.

Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!

If it’s the same as Ukrainian scheme you will get paid about £380 a month.

Getting ready for the usual excuses - haven’t got a spare room, can’t afford it, I live in a flat, I am too old, my second cousin twice removed lives with me etc etc. 🤣

Well, this is a fact.

I'm afraid those who claim they heartily welcome refugees and migrants pitching up on the Kent coast suddenly find their haloes become tarnished when asked the question "so you're saying you're willing to give a migrant houseroom?"

Oh dear........

Betony

'Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!'

Excellent point, Primrose53. I have a right-on friend who tut tuts at people who do not mirror her own idealism regarding migration (let 'em all come, etc. etc.) but who, although she has plenty of spare accommodation, feels that she 'wouldn't be up to having other people living in her house' (that's a direct quote). Classic case of do as I say, . . .

Be careful you'll get branded a facist if you state facts.

CatsWhiskas

Primrose53

Chestnut

Be careful who you let into your home. For two years an elderly couple in Sunbury-on-Thames looked after an 16 year old Iraqi called Ahmed Hassan who had claimed to be an asylum seeker. Then aged 18 he planted a bomb on the tube train at Parsons Green in 2017. It was an act of terrorism and 30 people were injured. He was arrested at Dover on his way out of the country and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 34 years. The jury believed he was older than he said.

Claiming to be much younger is a well known ruse Chestnut. They know if they claim to be a child they will go to a nice, cozy family home and get well looked after.

Look at this vile creature who killed an aspiring Royal Marine and had also attacked his foster Mother.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21143259/foster-mum-asylum-seeker-killed-brit-attacked-her/

You could have posed numerous links to vile white British creatures.

What exactly are you trying to prove?

This always comes up. Of course we have our own white British criminals and plenty of them. They are a product of a broken society and you could argue all day about why that is, whether social media/internet, poverty, drugs, immigration, media in general (violent movies, games, music) plenty of reasons why young people are stabbing each other almost on a daily basis.

The point is, we don't want any more disaffected young men here than we already have! Some people seem unable to grasp that, and just keep asking that same question.

AGAA4

What a very unpleasant thread.

Why? Because you don't like the fact what she's saying is true and want to shut her down?

Maremia

Strange to consider that if the Labour Government, who won a huge majority, yes, I know, there was an element of tactical voting, was so 'out of touch' with what the majority of citizens want, then how do you attempt to explain that majority?
Puzzling, isn't it?

It's extremely puzzling.

The only explanation if both hypotheses (Labour majority/tactical voting and the claim that most people now want Reform) are true, is that the the voting public is incredibly fickle. If it really is that fickle, it would be impossible to be "in touch" and I'm not sure the public's opinion would be reliable enough for policy to be based on it anyway.

I suspect Labour MPs are a lot more "in touch" than people think.

Maremia

Now I didn't know that CatsWhiskas.
Maybe Posters don't usually dig so deeply into the actual stats.
Thanks.

Facts from reliable sources are always count for more than hearsay, gossip and anecdote.

Primrose53

Chestnut

Be careful who you let into your home. For two years an elderly couple in Sunbury-on-Thames looked after an 16 year old Iraqi called Ahmed Hassan who had claimed to be an asylum seeker. Then aged 18 he planted a bomb on the tube train at Parsons Green in 2017. It was an act of terrorism and 30 people were injured. He was arrested at Dover on his way out of the country and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 34 years. The jury believed he was older than he said.

Claiming to be much younger is a well known ruse Chestnut. They know if they claim to be a child they will go to a nice, cozy family home and get well looked after.

Look at this vile creature who killed an aspiring Royal Marine and had also attacked his foster Mother.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21143259/foster-mum-asylum-seeker-killed-brit-attacked-her/

You could have posed numerous links to vile white British creatures.

What exactly are you trying to prove?