How would you rank the last 6 British Prime Minister's

LemonJam

Cossy

Plevey08

I've been reading how there needs to be a big change re the type of people entering politics. Some saying that savvy business people need to be more involved, particularly regarding how to support, enable and guide business model's so that our country can benefit from excellence.

Running a country though is about so much more than running a business.

I agree that we would benefit from a couple of really successful and driven business ministers, maybe acting as Chancellor and deputy PM.

I agree. Running the country and navigating domestic and international politics is way different from running a business or any other career as we saw in Starmer. He was highly successful in his Legal career but lacked political experience and political savvy.

Those with business success can de drafted in by governments to offer business advice- Like Timpson et al and be most useful.

Politics does attract those with business success. Sunak, Truss and Reeves came from corporate business, financial services backgrounds.

Before Chancellor, RR had NO government experience however had 14 years experience as an MP.

Truss was first. elected as an MP 2010, and held various junior ministerial roles till first senior role as Justice Secretary 2016/17.

Sunak first elected as an MP 2015 and worked in several government roles, including Chancellor during Covid but resigned 2022.

Posters can decide for themselves whether RR, Truss and Sunak's business success equipped them well for PM and Chancellor roles and lead to good business models so the country benefited from excellence.

I had a lot of time for Timpson Snr until he supported vote leave .

Cossy

Plevey08

I've been reading how there needs to be a big change re the type of people entering politics. Some saying that savvy business people need to be more involved, particularly regarding how to support, enable and guide business model's so that our country can benefit from excellence.

Running a country though is about so much more than running a business.

I agree that we would benefit from a couple of really successful and driven business ministers, maybe acting as Chancellor and deputy PM.

I agree. Running the country and navigating domestic and international politics is way different from running a business or any other career as we saw in Starmer. He was highly successful in his Legal career but lacked political experience and political savvy.

Those with business success can de drafted in by governments to offer business advice- Like Timpson et al and be most useful.

Politics does attract those with business success. Sunak, Truss and Reeves came from corporate business, financial services backgrounds.

Before Chancellor, RR had NO government experience however had 14 years experience as an MP.

Truss was first. elected as an MP 2010, and held various junior ministerial roles till first senior role as Justice Secretary 2016/17.

Sunak first elected as an MP 2015 and worked in several government roles, including Chancellor during Covid but resigned 2022.

Posters can decide for themselves whether RR, Truss and Sunak's business success equipped them well for PM and Chancellor roles and lead to good business models so the country benefited from excellence.

Plevey08

I've been reading how there needs to be a big change re the type of people entering politics. Some saying that savvy business people need to be more involved, particularly regarding how to support, enable and guide business model's so that our country can benefit from excellence.

Running a country though is about so much more than running a business.

I agree that we would benefit from a couple of really successful and driven business ministers, maybe acting as Chancellor and deputy PM.

I’d rank Truss the worst, then it would be

5. Johnson - lied and lied
4. Cameron - Brexit and running away
3. May, not too bad, but hardly memorable
I’ve tied Sunak and Starmer, both very well intentioned, both actually appear to be honest decent me , but again weak in too many ways and imo crucified by the media.

All a bit of a mess really, but I don’t think any other party, including Reform, can afford to be complacent. The three of our children who discuss politics and take a huge interest have moved their allegiances from Labour to Green.

Whoops, I missed her by mistake Oreo, sorry. I’d put her between Cameron and Starmer, and categorise her as Beleaguered stool pigeon. I liked her as a person, but I felt she never stood a chance from day 1.

An interesting survey.

M0nica

Casdon

Worst to Best summed up in a few words:

Truss - totally clueless
Johnson - dishonest grifter
Cameron - weak cruiser
Starmer - well intentioned terrible communicator
Sunak - well intentioned but the ship had already sunk

This is not about my politics, as I don’t agree with the politics of Sunak, purely about PM ability.

The road to hell is paved with Good Intentions.

Casdon you missed out May😃

Casdon

Why not just answer the question and rank them?

The first worst Starmer then Cameron then Borris the others any order after them.

I agree with Lemonjam's order, and with her rationale.

Why not just answer the question and rank them?

Starmer

Lied to membership about 10 pledges then ditched them when PM. Continued to lie.

Promised change but just focused on getting rid of the left, factional, authoritarian, even anti racist Jewish people who showed support for the plight of the Palistinian people.

Participated in Gaza genocide by supplying arms spy flights diplomatic cover.

Allowed USA to use our air bases so was involved in Iran war.

Arrested people many elderly for support of Palestine against genocide.

The hardest decision the UN had to make was not to name all the thousands of children the IDF killed, while it completed its report, even though in death they should be remembered and named, it was because if they did the IDF would go after their families and kill them too. The families have suffered enough the UN didn't want to add to their suffering.

Also Cameron who said No top down reorganisation of our NHS, when in government he did just that with the Health and Social Care Act
And austerity.

What's happening now in our NHS thousands are dying in corridor care MPs are not mentioning this or doing anything about it.

All at net zero except Truss: she's a minus zero.

Cameron gets my vote as very worst PM. Not only for the Brexit referendum but also for the appalling and utterly illogical austerity policy post 2010 which speeded up the work that Thatcher had started to bring public services to their knees and tame the workforce by emasculating the unions and keep wages low.

It’s impossible to place Truss because she was such a nonsensical nonentity. It wasn’t even her who crashed the economy, it was the Bank of England but she made a handy scapegoat because nobody would ever believe that the BoE could make a mistake.

So, second to Cameron comes Johnson. Others have said sufficient about him, I don’t need to repeat it.

May next because she was led by the nose by dreadful advisers and Starmer, IMO, should share that spot for exactly the same reason.

Which puts Sunak in the best light (much to my surprise)

Plevey08

There's already corruption Petra. But it's the lack of competence that has to change. And the huge turnover of PM's illustrates this. Maybe a different model of running the country needs to incorporate more capable and savvy business minded people from a wider pool. For so long dissent and self promotion is all so many parties are interested in.

The national economy is not a business. It cannot be run like a business. Haven't ‘savvy business types’ in government been the order of the day for decades as a result of this mistaken belief? To no particular benefit to the general wellbeing of the populace…

Casdon

Worst to Best summed up in a few words:

Truss - totally clueless
Johnson - dishonest grifter
Cameron - weak cruiser
Starmer - well intentioned terrible communicator
Sunak - well intentioned but the ship had already sunk

This is not about my politics, as I don’t agree with the politics of Sunak, purely about PM ability.

The road to hell is paved with Good Intentions.

I've never voted through my pocket and I'm proud that the high earning members of my family don't either. Cameron was a good guy; quite liked him. But can't forgive him for inflicting the greatest act of self harm a country has ever done to itself on us. And then walking away. May, decent person but can't forget how she reduced police numbers when Home Secretary. Did her best in an inpossible situation [also had Trump to deal with albeit Trump mark one not being as bad as mark two]. Johnson. A lazy narcissistic scumbag of a PM; he did so many awful things I've lost count of them. Also inflicted brexit on us without actually knowing how it would work. To my knowledge has done nothing of worth since he left office other than producing even more children. Sunak; another good guy. Eat out to help out was responsible for many deaths imo and that still angers me. Appointing Cameron as Foreign Secretary was a stroke of genius. Thought he'd walk away from parliament before the election but remains, to his credit, a back bencher working for his community. Starmer; turned his party round from unelectable to more than electable. But imo the media and most of his own party were always against him. On the world stage he has been a great PM. Repaired our fractured relationship with Europe [was doing that even before he became PM]. Imo the best PM we have had in years and should have been given the full five years to turn the country around.Dealt incredibly well with Trump. Truss, well the fact that she now spends so much time in America supporting Trump says it all.
1st Starmer
2nd Sunak and May [can't split them]
4th Cameron
5th Truss [because she was so stupid she didn't know what she was doing and still can't see it]
6th Johnson [because he did know what he was doing but didn't care because none of it affected him]

Reform would like a chance to have a go at winning a GE and Farage PM- but judging by Reform's performance in recent Makerfield by election, Farage being investigated re his £5million gift from a political donor and fall in the polls- not looking likely..... .

I'd put Johnson at the bottom because he didn't treat the job seriously and broke the rules he expected the rest of us to follow. Then Cameron for introducing the Brexit referendum without any Plan B if it should go against him. Those two were supposedly academic high-flyers! Truss was foolhardy and obstinate; Theresa May seemed to spend most of her time pursing a version of Brexit which her party rejected; Sunak did his best and made mistakes; and Starmer relied too much on poor advice, although I agree he was the best of the bunch. What a mess. Reform must be delighted.

The reason I put Cameron least worse is because the UK has gone downhill since 2016.

Worse Economy, NHS, Policing, Care services, higher food costs, higher taxes, any more?

There's already corruption Petra. But it's the lack of competence that has to change. And the huge turnover of PM's illustrates this. Maybe a different model of running the country needs to incorporate more capable and savvy business minded people from a wider pool. For so long dissent and self promotion is all so many parties are interested in.

Worst - Johnson - lazy, selfish, narcissistic, liar, no eye for detail. May have been a second rate journalist and fun at dinner parties but the most useless pm ever. Next Truss- dim and out of her depth -all the rest just hopeless in different ways. No coincidence that the revolving door of no 10 started with Brexit the biggest con ever.

Each were good and bad.

Sunak and Starmer had most potential to do well.

Same order as you Smileless which proves that we can all agree with each other sometimes on here.

Truss ( worst)
Cameron
Boris
Starmer
May
Sunak

Worst Truss
May defeated by her own extremists
Johnson too many lies
Sunak did try to pull it together but it was far too late
Starmer poor leadership defeated by own extremists
Least worst probably Cameron

Burnham will try to settle the sinking ship in 3 yrs, 60/40 against à Labour majority at next GE