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He has done it! The toolmakers son has resigned!

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Sago Mon 22-Jun-26 09:34:10

Feelings?

Could Mr Burnham restore Labour?

Susieq62 Tue 23-Jun-26 15:50:59

Why couldn’t the title have included top lawyer not the denigrating use of “ tool maker”s son”?
He looked humble, hurt and emotional after giving it his all! I really felt for him as a fellow human who has been stabbed in the back by his colleagues!

Rosie51 Tue 23-Jun-26 15:44:10

Dickens

MaizieD

Look out for YP coming to a place near you!

What is YP, Frogoet?

... yes, what - or who, is it?

Do I need to bring the washing in off the line / bolt all doors and windows... or just keep looking out of the window?

I'm assuming it's Your Party that Frogoet is meaning by YP. That post praises Corbyn criticises Starmer and the rest.

Menopauselbitch Tue 23-Jun-26 15:41:07

MaizieD

What a horrible thread title. Starmer's detractors vindictive to the last.

It’s only what most of the country are thinking.

libra10 Tue 23-Jun-26 15:24:35

Not a Labour party supporter, but felt upset at his resignation speech.

Sir Keir Starmer went against most of his manifesto pledges - taxation, reducing welfare state, also illegal migration. Not to mention the Mandelson fiasco, or the numerous u-turns. Not forgetting the £3 trillion national debt!

Hoping that his successor does a better job!

appletree21 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:59:56

MaizieD

What a horrible thread title. Starmer's detractors vindictive to the last.

Yes, I absolutely agree. There are people who gloat and try to belittle people who have done their best but unfortunately fallen from grace. What does it matter what somebody's parents profession is or was. A nasty jealous attitude.

67notout Tue 23-Jun-26 14:50:15

Completely unnecessary and vile thread title.

Nvella Tue 23-Jun-26 14:46:46

Luckygirl3

I think the title of this thread says it all - it is an example of media soundbites at their worst and shows the way in which people have been led by the nose into this mess, the effects of which the rest of us will need to endure.

What a way to run a country ......

Thank you for seeing something not from our disgusting press or social media. I don’t see any reason why we are not going to end up at exactly the same place in 6 months time once everyone starts on Andy Burnham. I used to like the British character but now it just depresses me.

4allweknow Tue 23-Jun-26 14:44:34

Haven't read or heard any of ABs proposals should he be elected PM other than the awful idea of a land tax on all properties to be paid yearly.

Plevey08 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:37:59

Well reported Lettie44. Cameron didn't want Brexit but had to bow to the pressure of the far right of his party. He didn't think voters would vote for leaving. Michael Gove was the architect of Brexit and used Boris as the potential populist new PM. They upped the anti by pressing on racism and the NHS. The main things that sparked the leaves note. I am disgusted by how that is happening again and again. Fire up the general public, misinform them and get into power. Exactly what Farage is doing. We need Europe more than ever now.

orly Tue 23-Jun-26 14:34:25

Patsy70

I usually feel sympathy towards PMs when they resign, whether I support them or not. Who would want that job?
I’m sure his wife and children will be relieved.

She'll have to buy her own dresses now though!

Casdon Tue 23-Jun-26 14:33:50

He took action hebbernsent. This is what came up on AI.

‘In 2017, the Greater Manchester Mayor commissioned an independent review into child sex abuse in Rochdale and Manchester to assess how authorities handled the cases. The resulting report, which detailed widespread failure to protect young people, was published in January 2024.

While Burnham initiated these local investigations, he also publicly acknowledged their limitations, as local reviews lack the legal authority to compel witnesses to testify. This led him to repeatedly advocate for a statutory national investigation, which the UK government ultimately established in June 2025.’

Essexgirl145 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:32:43

I was sad to see him go, there's no magic wand, real change always takes time, but at the bottom there is Brexit and that was the mistake.

hebburnsent Tue 23-Jun-26 14:25:03

What about all the beautiful children in Rochdale. Did he share a tear for them

Barbadosbelle Tue 23-Jun-26 14:23:08

Cossy

You shouldn't feel ashamed to be a LP supporter. Although it's understandable. But everyone appreciates that it takes all types to make the World.
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Dickens Tue 23-Jun-26 14:20:45

MaizieD

^Look out for YP coming to a place near you!^

What is YP, Frogoet?

... yes, what - or who, is it?

Do I need to bring the washing in off the line / bolt all doors and windows... or just keep looking out of the window?

Dynawritecat Tue 23-Jun-26 14:19:10

Me too.

spabbygirl Tue 23-Jun-26 14:16:41

Jess20

He's going to be missed, the LP has fallen for the popularist propaganda. I think Starmer was going in the right direction and has achieved a lot in his time, not least winning an election. I'm sorry he's not been left to at the least complete his term. Perfect, no. All the things I'd like to have seen, no. But going in the right direction and, I believe a sound politician in a very messed up situation treading a decent a path as possible. Will Burnham be better? Well, probably a better speaker but in the way both Johnson and Farrage are. Not disparaging him but I'm not sure Burnham is any tougher or more capable than Starmer is. In the current climate politics is set with a million traps to fall into and is set up by the press and oppositions as drama. The uncertainty of the information that drives the policy decisions politicians make mean an outward appearance of gung-ho confidence is deeply misleading. I'm disappointed with the labour party. I'll still vote for them as things currently stand, I don't think Burnham is a disaster, I just think a bit more continuity and stability would have served the country better than yet another head rolling. Who the hell would want to put themselves forward for a leadership role under these circumstances!

I agree Jess, I think people were desperate for a change after 14 yrs of Tories & he served up the winter fuel allowance cuts which gave the right wing press all they needed to start laying into him & they never stopped. I think KS was very tolerant of it.
His biographer Ton Baldwin says he has always been underestimated & I agree.

Lettie44 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:13:56

That’s was nasty and necessary

Lettie44 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:12:55

Based on 2025/2026 Bloomberg Economics research, Brexit has caused a significant, persistent, and worsening drag on the UK economy, costing an estimated £100 billion to over £200 billion annually.

How many hospitals and schools would those losses fund, I wonder ?

annab275 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:12:37

I think the electorate are too fickle, driven by dramatic headlines and the media ready to pounce. They think change happens quickly. Whichever party is in power the mood is too febrile and I have a feeling that Andy will be getting the same calls to resign in a year or two. I hope not.

Lettie44 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:09:21

Absolutely. This country has forgotten about good manners and respect, since Farage, Johnson et al normalised rudeness. Tony Blair did advocate - ‘education, education, education’. It’s certainly by passed many IMHO

Alison333 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:08:53

Maremia

I will not forget that he kept us out of that illegal war.

Yes, you're right! Funny how people seem to have forgotten that already.

Grandmotherto8 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:06:13

I have been absolutely disgusted by the way the MPs in the Labour Party have turned on the man who won them the last election. The media, obviously very right wing, has hounded Starmer from Day One. Their aim seems to be to get Reform in situ, but they were thwarted in Makerfield and will be similarly thwarted in a General Election. The photograph of Burnham with gloating, toadying MPs was insensitive, cruel and derided. Shame on the Labour MPs and shame on Burnham, whom I previously supported.

Quizzer Tue 23-Jun-26 14:04:49

Two years is not long enough to undo all the damage done by multiple Conservative PMs.
Good luck Burnham.

Harris27 Tue 23-Jun-26 14:04:03

Felt a bit sorry for him. At least he wasn’t an idiotic like Boris