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MaizieD Wed 17-Jun-26 12:14:29

Interesting reading from a tory defector to Reform who now wants to return to the tories. Published on 'conservative home'. which is free to read,

Discussing the factionalism within Reform

Reform are like one big HMO – they don’t like each other and are united by grievance alone.

Whilst speaking to grievance is a part of politics, good governance depends on those willing to serve in the public interest to fix the problems, not just spin them.

The infighting in Reform is toxic and make past Tory spats look like playground arguments.

He identifies the factions, then continues:

Another issue I had come up over again was how unprofessional the party is. They are not concerned about their own policy; it is here today gone tomorrow. They rewrite their own party rules quarterly to reflect the latest factional battles. The changes serve as a sort of historiography of who’s up and who’s down.

conservativehome.com/2026/06/17/robbie-lammas-i-made-a-mistake-defecting-to-reform-they-are-not-a-serious-party/

There was another article by a disaffected Reform group deputy leader flagged up here, but I don't have a subscription to the media which published it. He apparently described the party as 'toxic'

bsky.app/profile/fascinatorfun.bsky.social/post/3modafcv5ic2j

This really isn't a party to seriously consider for government, is it?

Barbadosbelle Thu 18-Jun-26 19:27:43

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Over the past (c) century, Britain has NEVER been a success under a Labour government.
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Barbadosbelle Thu 18-Jun-26 19:23:47

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Greenywitch...

The majority of what you list seems to be a jolly good idea.
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Barbadosbelle Thu 18-Jun-26 19:19:50

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Continue to pat yourself on the back -
but you obviously don't understand history or economics.

(f.i. MrsT closed 119 mines but prior to her becoming MP, 750 were closed. Harold Wilson closed 253)
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orly Thu 18-Jun-26 18:20:09

fancythat

But the problem is, many are now fed up of the two previous main parties.

It may not be the answer, but what is?
That is how many now feel.

That's exactly how I felt when I felt I could no longer vote for the Tories in 2024 and would never vote for a Labour government due to past experiences. I do think that the Tories are regaining some ground under Kemi Badenoch's leadership but with the new parties dividing the vote it may be too late.

Casdon Thu 18-Jun-26 18:08:13

Crikey LemonJam.

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 18:00:49

That's a very big 'swallow'.
Thanks for those details LemonJam.

LemonJam Thu 18-Jun-26 17:13:32

TETHER’s recent history in Russia. Less than a year ago, Tether froze $28 million worth of USDT on the Russian crypto exchange Garantex.

The National Crime Agency has spent four years trying to crack a multibillion-dollar scheme that exchanges cash from drug and gun sales in the UK for crypto, digital tokens that are designed to hide their users’ identities.

The scheme has enabled sanctions evasions and the highest levels of organised crime, including providing money-laundering services to the Russian state the agency says.
Of the $24m (£18.3m) in crypto that the NCA and its counterparts abroad have so far been able to seize, the “vast majority” was issued by Tether .

A private company headquartered in El Salvador Tether has grown so popular that it declared profits of $13bn for 2024, one-and-a-half times those of McDonald’s. Tether’s shares are reportedly owned by a small group, among them Christopher Harborne one of the UK’s biggest political donors and has donated £25m to Reform UK. Harborne took a 12% stake around 2016, court papers say, although it is unclear what share of Tether’s profits he has received.

LemonJam Thu 18-Jun-26 17:10:42

fancythat

AGAA4

Christopher Harborne Reform's main contributor has links to Russia. He's giving funds to Reform and Farage to have a major influence on them.

This is a known fact?

I have become dubious about all the posts saying about Farage and Russia now.

Reported today: Nigel Farage has been trying to block a Bank of England cryptocurrency plan that could be costly for the billionaire bankrolling his party. The Reform UK leader has said Christopher Harborne wants nothing in exchange for the millions he has donated to the party and the undeclared £5m personal gift to Farage.

But Farage used a private meeting at the Bank of England to urge the governor to drop plans for a state-run alternative to the digital currency that has made his Thailand-based benefactor one of the richest people in the world.

Farage’s opposition to the proposal for a “Britcoin” is so strong that, after the meeting last September, he told an audience of crypto enthusiasts he would be “prepared to go to prison” to stop it, footage of the event shows.

Harborne’s £25m in donations to Farage’s Reform UK, ( plus £5m personal payment to Frage directly) account for about two-thirds of its funding. He is one of a handful of tech figures who own Tether the company that issues the world’s most widely traded cryptocurrency. Tether’s digital cash, known as stablecoins, is pegged in value to government-issued currencies, allowing users to exchange their money easily between the two. Registered in El Salvador with a small staff, Tether’s reported profits have surpassed those of Netflix and Coca-Cola.

If Harborne’s share of the profits is equal to his 12% stake, that would give him about £1bn a year. Those profits could fall, however, if the Bank’s governor, Andrew Bailey, proceeds with the Britcoin plan, which could cut demand for stablecoins such as Tether’s, according to a submission to the central bank by an industry body that represents the company.

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 16:49:46

^ I’m surprised that anybody would dismiss this, surely whatever the truth is it needs to be out.6

it does.

But one swallow does not make a summer, or whatever the expression is.

I assumed the "problem" was rife, going by on this forum.
It may be. Or it may not be.
Or it may be rife in all Parties.

Delene100 Thu 18-Jun-26 16:48:56

LizzieDrip

Agreed MollyNew.

The ‘let’s give ‘em a go’ attitude is very dangerous. Giving Reform ‘a go’ could bring about the ruin of our wonderful country.

The damage they would do in a 5 year term is immeasurable, and the country may never recover.

So let’s not ‘give ‘em a go’ eh!

Just look at what Trump has done to the US and the world. There is your answer if you vote Reform. I despair.

Casdon Thu 18-Jun-26 16:14:55

The Welsh national leader for Reform is a very senior post within the party fancythat, and there are serious enough concerns about foreign interference to warrant a cross-party parliamentary investigation. The fact that only one politician has been caught definitely does not prove that others are not involved, or indeed receiving payments from foreign powers. I’m surprised that anybody would dismiss this, surely whatever the truth is it needs to be out.

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 16:07:24

I look forward to adding to this list, once we are told the result of these investigations.

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 16:06:33

And now figures such as Keir Starmer and the Liberal Democrats have called for deeper investigations into the extent of ties between the Reform Party and Russian influence.

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 16:04:08

And not forgetting the number of times Farage was paid to appear on the Russian state funded network RT (Russia Today)

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 16:01:55

And there is more on Google. Easy for anyone to find.

Party DONORS and One Hyde Park
Significant attention has been drawn to Nick Candy , Reform's TREASURER and key donors who have lies to the luxury apartment complex in London, which has housed several sanctioned Russian oligarchs.

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:59:16

I had assumed there was a whole heap more of Russian shenanigans to do with the Reform Party, than has come to light already.
Going by the amount it is talked about on this forum.

Silly me to have previously made that assumption.

Maremia Thu 18-Jun-26 15:54:38

Try asking Google.
The one you already know about is described
Nathan Gill, paid by a pro Kremlin operative to deliver specific scripts critical of Ukraine and make pro-Russian statements un the European Parliament. Gill was found guilty and is now in prison.

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:49:12

I dont much doubt that.

Casdon Thu 18-Jun-26 15:47:19

And deliberate social media posts feeding disinformation…
www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exposes-sick-russian-troll-factory-plaguing-social-media-with-kremlin-propaganda

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:47:03

AGAA4

Christopher Harborne Reform's main contributor has links to Russia. He's giving funds to Reform and Farage to have a major influence on them.

This is a known fact?

I have become dubious about all the posts saying about Farage and Russia now.

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:45:19

Maremia

What will Reform do for us, should they get in?
What about their debt to their Russian investors?

Where do you get the debt bit from?

Casdon Thu 18-Jun-26 15:43:33

It was merely the trigger, it was a serious case, and more involvement is suspected, with just cause fancythat. I’m sure Mr Farage is concerned and is conducting his own root and branch review of the Reform Party as a consequence, as are the other parties. We know there is Russian involvement in UK politics, only this week two men were charged with setting fire to a property and a car associated with the PM.

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:39:12

So now Gn posters keep posting about Russian interference?

fancythat Thu 18-Jun-26 15:38:35

Is that it?
One article about 1 man?

Casdon Thu 18-Jun-26 15:33:16

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-starmer-orders-probe-into-foreign-election-interference-after-ex-reform-2025-12-16/
This is worth a read.