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German voters slide inexorably to common sense …

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 14-Jun-26 18:58:04

Good luck to the AfD and Reform.
Common sense is finally emerging. The welfarism cannot (and should not) be sustained.

MT62 Mon 15-Jun-26 11:25:58

My friend from Germany tell me the German people want Germany back to pre-Angela Merkle.

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 11:22:25

Anyone willing to continue to support them after fully understanding the implication of their policies does not imo deserve a place in civil society.

Simce I am being asked to clarify.

You want them killed?
Rot in jail?
What exactly.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-Jun-26 11:19:30

If you actually read my posts, they are entirely about AfD and its supporters.

No one (including Reform itself) is entirely clear what its policies are and how it is going to achieve them and their impact.

MaizieD Mon 15-Jun-26 11:16:19

fancythat

If you think you can say anything you like to me, you cant.

I will hit the Report button if I want to.
We are encouraged to do more reporting.

I think that your use of the phrase 'it sounds awful' was the problem.

What 'sounded awful'?

Was it the policies which Ww posted or was it her comment that anyone who continued to support them didn't deserve a place in civil society?

Incidentally, I don't think that the mods would count supposition of support for Reform as being against the guidelines. After all, it's not an insult. is it? It's not a personal attack...

And I'm not sure why you're getting so annoyed when you've actually said you may vote for them hmm

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 11:05:48

If you think you can say anything you like to me, you cant.

I will hit the Report button if I want to.
We are encouraged to do more reporting.

Cossy Mon 15-Jun-26 11:04:10

Let’s hope for the German people that they’ve made the correct decision, both for their own country and the rest of Europe.

I’m quite saddened and a little sickened to read Gransnetters celebrating however it’s their right to do so, as we still live in a democracy and long may it last.

I’m yet to have a proper explanation of those criticising the “extreme left” as I don’t believe we have a political party in the UK meeting this description.

All I will say is, be careful what you wish for.

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 11:03:45

b. and again please read better, I am replying[and have quoted] something whitewave said.

So why you have even put that all together, well I can only guess.

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 11:01:59

a. I am not a "supporter of Reform" - I do wish you would get your ideas right about me.
Frankly, I am fed up of you misrepresenting, not reading what I say correctly, etc etc.
Where have I said "I am a supporter"?
I have said I may vote for them.
I have also said, multiple times, I am a floating voter, and by definition, I float.
That is not that hard to understand.
Please read, and better still, ingest correctly.

petra Mon 15-Jun-26 10:53:47

fancythat

^Anyone willing to continue to support them after fully understanding the implication of their policies does not imo deserve a place in civil society.
^

What does this mean?
At face value, it sounds awful.

As you are a supporter of Reform I can understand your it sounds awful comment.
But you have to understand that some of Reforms policies sound awful to a great deal of people.

AGAA4 Mon 15-Jun-26 10:05:18

I think the defence of our country is far more important than immigration. Healy and others expect an attack by the end of this decade. Will we be worrying about immigration if our country is under attack?

foxie48 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:55:18

Absolutely, which is why it's important that the issue of funding for parties ie Reform and the links Reform has with Russia is not forgotten. Russian bots were also used to influence the Brexit vote. Why did Russia want the UK out of Europe? Well, it's pretty obvious isn't it.

AGAA4 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:54:18

No but one seems to take precedence with many people. GG13 and it's not Russia.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:42:29

AGAA4

I understand why people are worried about immigration but we should be focussing on the real danger to all of us that is Russia.

The two extremely important situations are not mutually exclusive 🤦‍♀️

AGAA4 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:30:14

I understand why people are worried about immigration but we should be focussing on the real danger to all of us that is Russia.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:23:22

Maybe Germany should like at why voters are turning away from the main stream parties, could it have anything to do with Angela Merkel’s open door policy

It is commendable to look after those in need and distress, but a governments first duty is the safety and welfare of its own citizens.

foxie48 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:20:45

I think we should all ask ourselves before we vote, who is funding this party, what links does this party have with other countries' parties and what links do those countries have with Russia? We are having to make hard choices about funding our security versus funding our public services because we can see that Russia is a potential threat to Europe, yet people are willing to support and vote for a party that has proven links to Russia. They are prepared to march behind a man, who was actually in Russia not the UK, encouraging British people to riot. I despair!!

Oreo Mon 15-Jun-26 09:12:03

Fallingstar

Well I too will take my leave having said my piece and leave it to others to hammer it out.
Tbh I find it all really alarming.

I must leave too, for a shower and shopping with DD’s but may be back later.
Governments must answer to their people.

Oreo Mon 15-Jun-26 09:08:58

AGAA4

There is a lot of information about the ADF. I think Germans will be making a mistake by voting them in. I don't believe any extreme right party is good for any country.

You’re right, and neither is any extreme left wing Party.The best is usually quite centrist.
Fortunately Europe has democracies and votes out the ones that mess up at the next GE.

Fallingstar Mon 15-Jun-26 09:08:05

Well I too will take my leave having said my piece and leave it to others to hammer it out.
Tbh I find it all really alarming.

AGAA4 Mon 15-Jun-26 09:04:33

There is a lot of information about the ADF. I think Germans will be making a mistake by voting them in. I don't believe any extreme right party is good for any country.

Oreo Mon 15-Jun-26 09:00:49

And remember that the whole of Europe isn’t sliding into a very right wing bloc.
Hungary has just proved that.

Oreo Mon 15-Jun-26 08:55:38

There’s no need for anyone to announce they’re out of this thread, why not debate your corner?

Oreo Mon 15-Jun-26 08:54:06

Whitewavemark2

There is so much AfD published information out there about what they would do if they got into power. What I have copied is just the tip of an almighty iceberg.

Anyone willing to continue to support them after fully understanding the implication of their policies does not imo deserve a place in civil society.

I have no wish to enter conversation with such people.

Are you in conversation with German ADF friends then?And they haven’t got into power yet.

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 08:53:51

I think I am out of this thread too.

fancythat Mon 15-Jun-26 08:53:39

^Anyone willing to continue to support them after fully understanding the implication of their policies does not imo deserve a place in civil society.
^

What does this mean?
At face value, it sounds awful.