Trump and the death penalty

Just over 50% of the American population support the death penalty. It used to be 80% so there's a downward trend.

I'm opposed. Always have been. But ... yes, there's a but ... I would not be devastated if Chris Watts received this penalty.

Very clever, imaround!

Reading the article Trump has yet to authorise these military executions but he has authorised many civilian ones during his presidency so no doubt he will. I am opposed to execution by any means as too many innocent people have been executed. Just look at the case of Andrew Malkinson who has recently been freed from serving 17 years for a crime he did not commit, imagine if he’d been executed!
Also some of the means of execution in the US are nothing short of barbaric. Surely the only humane method, if one had to be used, would be the same drug used for assisted suicide but not self administered.

Supreme Court said no to the gas chamber in Alabama.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4dx72lwn7o

I thought I would come by and drop some harmless (except the the grass) civil disobedience.

www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/us-authorities-investigate-huge-etching-191624691.html

Depends on the horrific nature of the murders.
If my family was slaughtered, yes I could pull a lever no problem.

We all agree that life imprisonment should mean life, and penalties for murderers should be harsh.
But killing them in the name of justice is wrong, just plain wrong.
Like so many decisions of Trump's.

I'm opposed to it too Iam - same reasons.

I’m opposed to the death penalty simply because it’s barbaric and I don’t support the state killing people.

Welcome to the twenty first century, Alabama: better late than never .
Is it true that there had been problems accessing the products necessary as the manufacturer did not wish to be associated with this?
I have a vague memory of reading this some time ago.

Good, if they are willing and able to fight it State by State.

*gas chamber

And I can't believe that anyone has to be told a gas chamber is cruel and unusual today.

Here we go.

A Federal judge just ruled that Alabama has chamber is unconstitutional in violation of the 8th Amendment.

www.lawdork.com/p/alabama-nitrogen-hypoxia-unconstitutional

I think Tony Swartz, the ghost writer behind 'The Art of the Deal', shares some of the blame for Trump's success although he has since denounced Trump. The ride still continues for Mark Burnett.

I suppose Trump believes his own hype!

Not only The Apprentice but the ghost writer of Trump's 'Art of the Deal' did admit in 2016 that his work 'put lipstick on a pig'

Thanks NotSpaghetti, for that further info.

Maremia, the connection between television producer Mark Burnett and Donald Trump is regarded by many to be one of the most consequential partnerships in American political history.
He created the myth of Trump as the expert businessman via The Apprentice TV show.

He repackaged and rehabilitated him in the eyes of the public after his various bankrupt businesses, casino failures and mega-debt.

Millions of viewers saw a decisive, commanding leader who listened to arguments This weekly fantasy embedded the idea into the American psyche that Trump was a brilliant manager of people and "the numbers".

The story is that working-class households (in particulat) across suburban and rural America loved his TV persona. It made Trump a household name to people that were unfamiliar with the world of real estate (and his history). For many voters, Trump's competence was built entirely on the fictionalized boardroom persona Burnett made for him.

jakuss

Good, time we brought it back

Would you still feel that way were you erroneously charged with murder?

Maremia

Magenta8, have never heard of Mark Burnett, so thanks for the heads up.
Agree with imaround about the deadly Stephen Millar, and not forgetting his charmless spouse.

For information on the role Mark Burnett played in the rise and rise of Trump, there is a chapter in a book published in 2022 by Patrick Radden Keefe - 'Rogues, True stories of Grifters, Killers, Rebels and Crooks.'

Mark Burnett is now Trump's UK envoy.

Wiki doesn't really contain all the information on this.

Colin Stagg wouldn't ever have been a candidate for the death penalty, to my mind, because there never was any hard evidence.

As far as I know, all of the mistaken convictions were some years ago.

Dna has come a long way since then.

Dennis Neilson; No mistake there, unless someone else put human flesh down his toilet, and other gruesome evidence into his flat.

NotSpaghetti

MayBee70

This from a president who has pardoned the people jailed for their part in the insurrection in which people died ( and also, I believe, is planning to pay them compensation?).

Compensation fund has been challenged and then cancelled.

globalnews.ca/news/11887474/trump-anti-weaponization-fund-cancelled-todd-blanche/?hl=en-GB

Thanks for that info.

MayBee70

This from a president who has pardoned the people jailed for their part in the insurrection in which people died ( and also, I believe, is planning to pay them compensation?).

Compensation fund has been challenged and then cancelled.

globalnews.ca/news/11887474/trump-anti-weaponization-fund-cancelled-todd-blanche/?hl=en-GB

MissAdventure

Of course, any case where there is the slightest doubt wouldn't incur the death penalty.

But sometimes there are wrong convictions. I am currently watching a documentary on the killing of Rachel Nickell. Colin Stagg was wrongfully arrested, and served 13 months in prison for Rachel's murder. He was acquitted in 1994, due to police misconduct during the investigation, and officially cleared in 2008 when DNA evidence linked serial killer Robert Napper to Rachel's murder.

Had the death penalty been a possibility at the time, then Colin Stagg may well have been executed for Rachel's murder.

Magenta8, have never heard of Mark Burnett, so thanks for the heads up.
Agree with imaround about the deadly Stephen Millar, and not forgetting his charmless spouse.