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Trump and the death penalty

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Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 12:22:55

From The Mirror this morning.

These people are already on death row, how do you all feel about the below:-

“US Army prepares for first military executions in 50 years awaiting Trump order
The US Army is drawing up plans to carry out four military executions of death row inmates for the first time in more than 50 years, pending approval from President Donald Trump.

The US Army is preparing to conduct four executions should President Donald Trump issue the command, according to an internal planning document seen by ABC News.

The plan, if implemented, would represent the first occasion the military has executed convicted American prisoners in more than half a century. "Operation Resolute Justice" instructs Army officials to liaise with the Federal Bureau of Prisons to move condemned inmates from the US Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to the federal execution facility in Terre Haute, Indiana.“

Personally, I simply don’t agree with the death penalty, however horrific the crime, it doesn’t act as a deterrent and I, imo, just find this act quite ironic, committing a murder to punish a murderer for breaking the law by murdering someone? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

I do believe some crimes mean that individual should never be free to walk and work alongside the rest of society.

What do you fine folk think and feel about this?

Perhaps a better option is to give these criminals the opportunity to choose between whole life imprisonment, with some form of work being done or the means to take their own lives?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/us-army-first-military-executions-37259419?utm_campaign=communities&utm_medium=social&utm_source=whatsapp

Macaydia Mon 08-Jun-26 07:51:13

What about the death penalty for the murder of children - if a child under fifteen commits a murder and then is held accountable for life. Is that a fix for a son not being raised properly with particular values instilled by responsible parents?

In the US, the majority of those being murdered by "The Penalty" are of African ancestry. Is this the alternative motive that you were speaking of, Maybee70 and foxie48. The US laws criminalise dark-skinned people. imaround can agree on this. Is this a supremacist movement to win more Protestant votes?

Yes, even those families who have experienced psychotic mental actions that have tortured and killed their loved ones are not incapable of forgiveness. Though I have met some who are not.

Murder of a defective human is barbaric. The UK has been preaching this for decades. Emotions aside, it is not the correct way to move forward in a civilised society.

Maremia Mon 08-Jun-26 07:34:54

That appears to have been tbe first time a Reporter pushed back.
Maybe it could happen more often?

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 08-Jun-26 07:20:26

I do not support the death penalty. For the most dreadful crimes such as the murder of children, round the clock solitary confinement would be fitting. I believe that the USA is the only civilised country in the world to have the death penalty.

It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that trump is now certifiable. He knows the midterms in November will go badly for the Republicans and he can’t have that.

Did anyone see the interview he gave yesterday which he walked out of? After being incredibly rude to the female interviewer.

It is going to take many years for the USA to recover from this dreadful man and his acolytes.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 08-Jun-26 07:03:41

You are correct, Macaydia. The USA incarcerates more of its' citizens pro rata, for longer, and with dismal recidivism results.
Perhaps they could learn from Norway?

Maremia Mon 08-Jun-26 07:02:20

Think of all the people who have been wrongly imprisoned.
If the death penalty had been used, they would have had no recompense.
Think of some of the reasons why 'criminals' are executed in other countries.
Women, for adultery, men for homosexuality.
I don't agree with the death penalty.

imaround Mon 08-Jun-26 02:15:49

I had heard that the Federal Government was trying to go back to firing squads, gas chambers and electrocution as well.

Barbaric.

He can choose one of those when he is convicted and sentenced.

(Though I see the the Tech Billionaires (Theil IIRC) are starting to move to Argentina.)

FWIW, it cost more to put someone to death in this country than to keep them imprisoned for life. 2.5 x 5 times more, in the millions of dollars per person.

Macaydia Mon 08-Jun-26 02:06:11

Norway's prison system appears to have less repeat offenders than other countries.

Wyllow3 Sun 07-Jun-26 23:06:03

🤬 Trump is all, what people say.

No, I could not support the death penalty tho at times I have felt like it. It's not just the risks of mistakes, nor even whether its a deterrent.

Its being a society that is potentially - a government like Trump can come in and can change the laws bad enough already once we accept the principle: meeting violence back with violence, is it good for us all?

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jun-26 22:55:54

My father in law had to preside over hanging. That’s all I’m prepared to say other than I’m totally opposed to the death penalty sad.

MissAdventure Sun 07-Jun-26 22:15:38

The very worst, only.
Abduction and killing children, the kind of crimes committed by fhe Wests, The moors murderers.
Sustained torturing of victims, the crimes committed by ian Watkins. .

MollyNew Sun 07-Jun-26 22:11:31

MissAdventure

I support the death penalty.

For what offences?

Macaydia Sun 07-Jun-26 21:44:25

What are the alternatives and are the alternatives more humane?

MissAdventure Sun 07-Jun-26 21:37:13

I support the death penalty.

foxie48 Sun 07-Jun-26 21:35:55

I am totally against the death penalty, it is barbaric and totally wrong regardless of the crime. Trump is deranged but I also suspect there is another agenda behind this.

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 21:11:50

boheminan

To me, this is a very emotive subject. I would passionately fight against the death penalty in this country...

but knowing if anyone had in anyway hurt (or heaven forbid) murdered a child of mine, I would happily have killed them myself.

I think we’d all react this way! I know I would.

It’s a very normal, emotional reaction that few actually act on.

boheminan Sun 07-Jun-26 20:41:08

To me, this is a very emotive subject. I would passionately fight against the death penalty in this country...

but knowing if anyone had in anyway hurt (or heaven forbid) murdered a child of mine, I would happily have killed them myself.

Macaydia Sun 07-Jun-26 20:37:49

Iam64

Macaydia. I’ve read the executions in American prisons sometimes go wrong and death is painful and prolonged
Why anyone would want to view this barbaric act is beyond me

I'm not sure but I think they have a law saying there must be witnesses. Hundreds of years ago, in England, there were many witnesses - the whole village and children !

Macaydia Sun 07-Jun-26 20:35:47

Smileless2012

Because with assisted dying, the one whose chosen to do so must administer the drug themselves.

With assisted dying, they use a drug (a poison) that works.

Macaydia Sun 07-Jun-26 20:31:51

Chocolatelovinggran

I am opposed to the death penalty.
As others here, I think that it is quite a different ask from those joining the forces with the aim of defending one's country, to becoming an executioner of a countryman/ woman.

...especially if the citizen is innocent !

You would think that in this day and age, men would have a more advanced way of dealing with mental issues than murder.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 07-Jun-26 14:45:24

I am opposed to the death penalty.
As others here, I think that it is quite a different ask from those joining the forces with the aim of defending one's country, to becoming an executioner of a countryman/ woman.

Iam64 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:29:41

Macaydia. I’ve read the executions in American prisons sometimes go wrong and death is painful and prolonged
Why anyone would want to view this barbaric act is beyond me

Smileless2012 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:18:02

Because with assisted dying, the one whose chosen to do so must administer the drug themselves.

Macaydia Sun 07-Jun-26 14:12:52

Why are the methods for a death penalty execution different than methods used for assisted suicide?

Smileless2012 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:11:20

My understanding is that 27 USA states have the death penalty and that the governor of those states has the final say as to whether the sentence will be carried out or commuted to a life sentence, so I don't see how this could be enforceable.

The last execution by firing squad was carried out in South Colorado on November 14th 2025 at the request of the one being executed.

AGAA4 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:09:25

Another new low for Trump. The death penalty should have ended in all civilised countries now. Does he keep thinking up more ways to damage the reputation of the US.

Executing his own citizens is as bad as the regime in Iran.