Makerfield: Reform candidate sexist?

Oh I think that Andy Burnham will win as it means Starmer going!
If Reform get in then Starmer is likely to stay.

I’m feeling slightly more cheerful about Makerfield as Restore seems to be taking more votes from Reform. If Andy gets in because of a split vote, that’ll do.

Obviously a matter of opinion but they certainly could...

LemonJam

Of course Reform and Restore could make a worse job of things than the current government.

They’d be hard pushed to!

I don't have much of a view on restore but I think Reform would probably do a similar job as the last tory government if that's any help.

LemonJam

Of course Reform and Restore could make a worse job of things than the current government.

In your opinion….
Which you are entitled to as am I?….

LemonJam

Of course Reform and Restore could make a worse job of things than the current government.

Not could but will.

Of course Reform and Restore could make a worse job of things than the current government.

snoopy57

Lets get behind Reform and beat Labour

Yes, they can hardly make a worse job of it than the current shower…

That is- lets not!

Dickens

snoopy57

Lets get behind Reform and beat Labour

Let's not.

Seconded.

snoopy57

Lets get behind Reform and beat Labour

Let's not.

Lets get behind Reform and beat Labour

I hope not MaizieD.

On the other hand there is the possibility people are fed up with Restore and Reform capitalising on such events ie. Henry Nowak's murder and Stephen Ogilvie's attack for political gain particularly when the respective families asked for this not to happen. Some people also do not relish the triggering of the violent protest scenes seen in Southampton last week and Belfast this week which Restore and Reform do not condemn.

Many posters are also aware of Musk's support for Restore/Lowe and aware of the part he plays in social media triggering a violent protest response.

posters' LOL!

Maremia

I have seen that paragraph before, but I'm not sure why posting it is a problem.

MazieD has explained - it's her bête noire . Many of us have one (or more) I suspect. Mine is those who correct other poster's spelling or grammar mistakes.

I'm still trying to process the shocking violence in Belfast, we've seen angry mobs outside or near hotels housing immigrants before, but this is on a different level. Men in balaclavas torching immigrant's homes - a nurse being chased into the hospital where she worked?

This is being encouraged by Musk, too.

Current polling is sparse, but it seems to be thought that it's tight, with Burnham slightly in the lead.

I do wonder if the Belfast episode will drive more voters to Restore, with Lowe suggesting a return to capital punishment.

Tuliptree

Every time this thread pops up all I can think now is sexist or not, he's going to win. Isn't he? Disagreements with optimistic reasons will be welcome.

Inclined to agree.

I watched the clip linked in the OP - he apologised with that facial expression individuals adopt when-they-want-to-be-taken-seriously, or even incredibly seriously; possibly even extremely seriously. I'm minded of that old ITV talent-contest programme host who used to adjust his face to announce, "and I mean that most sincerely folks"...

The mood is such that I think he'll be forgiven for having been a bit of a lad, I suspect some won't even think there's anything to forgive.

It's an interesting thought Maremia. The rapid spread of footage shows how social media is pivotal in enabling far- right agitators to mobilise internationally- amplified by Musk et al.

There is a trend of trigger evens where something horrifying happens which is then attached to an existing narrative being pushed on the right with mass migration pushed as the reason e.g. by Farage. Then Restore goes one step further with Rupert Lowe (supported by Musk) seeking to out flank Farage by posting "Reform politicians let this monster into our country, an apparent reference to the 2 former Conservative minsters who lead on immigration- Suella Braverman and Robert Jenryk.

Will this make posters in Makerfield more wary? We will find out next week.......

Back to the original purpose of the Thread, I now wonder if the shocking riots in Belfast could make people more wary of who they vote for.
Sorry, I have no back up for this. Just a thought that came to mind.

I have seen that paragraph before, but I'm not sure why posting it is a problem.

Dickens

MaizieD

... yes, it's an internet meme... which I posted once before on GN - to save someone's embarrassed blushes.

The point of posting it again was to defend someone who had been unnecessarily 'scolded' IMO, which I thought would be obvious by the tone of my post.

I bet you can read the paragraph though!

I'm sorry, but that meme is like a red rag to a bull for me. I spent many hours debunking it when it first appeared and was being used as support for a truly damaging method of teaching reading! I was working with the victims of that method at the time and was fired up by how adversely it affected their self esteem and their ability to access education and the adult world.

It would feed into the current thread about white working class males if I could face the aggro...

Yes, of course I can read it. Any skilled reader who can work out very simple anagrams can read that particular passage.

(I do appreciate your blush saving motive )

Yes a week is a long time in politics as we know. Interesting to have some links back stage so to speak.

I don't think he will win but clearly it's going to be close. Might depend on tactical voting.

It's a feeling backed by knowing one of the campaigners for the LP based in Manchester and his report.

Still time for things to happen either way, however.